Battlefield 3

[Transient]

ah, they made us re-download 3.9gb to change the folder name where the beta was stored.

that would explain why the game is still a buggy, horrible mess. thanks for clearing that up shaft

I just checked for a new patch in Origin and it said BF3 was up to date, so unless it downloaded in the background while I was at work (with Origin not knowingly running), you are mistaken sir. Or maybe they fixed the patch.

[andyman]

cool that you can link your stats. I love stats.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf3/so ... 2974/xbox/

[Tsakali]

42.7% of stats are made up

[andyman]

on this board they are

[Eraser]

I'm asking again: have any of you complainers actually reported your findings to DICE? Sounds to me like all those whiny little bitches that are playing the beta expect this to be a fully polished, ready to ship demo and only whine about the faults on [insert favorite forum here] instead of writing up useful issue reports to DICE.

[andyman]

no, i don't vote either. u mad?

[andyman]

join a hacked server and risk getting EA acc banned. lol.

oh the replies

d34thly says:10/03/2011 at 20:22
My account name is strafeshot on steam and d34thly on origin and d34thly on GFWL so if you’re not a pussy give me your game handle so we can handle it online. @Crying i can kill your whole team at least 3 times over before you even notice me. @psyk tell me what games you play and your game handle before you can call me a pussy or n00b. See pussies always talk but never back it up, I live at 8025 Florida Ave N. Brooklyn Park, MN 55445 if you want to sort it out in person.Come LAN, but I wouldn’t recommend calling me a n00b or pussy in person. Losers hate competition that’s why I am wrecking the game for psyk. You guessed wrong psyk I lead my team to winning but you’re too pussy to find out as you won’t tell anyone your handle or what you play.BTW psyk why are you sending my links of my house on bing maps and a link to Mark Bradford. You’re all talk and a pussy I doubt you would even have the balls to call or show up or even join a game I’m in.

I hope to see anyone who flames me in game, actually i hope to see anyone here in game. Bring your best and kill me allot as my most memorably fun matches are the ones where I get my ass handed to me.

kind of an all-over address

[brisk]

I'm asking again: have any of you complainers actually reported your findings to DICE? Sounds to me like all those whiny little bitches that are playing the beta expect this to be a fully polished, ready to ship demo and only whine about the faults on [insert favorite forum here] instead of writing up useful issue reports to DICE.

Why report things that are already common knowledge to both the community and DICE? Just read any gaming forum, you'll see the same things over and over.

[andyman]

I love stats.

In my overall experience of the ragequitting, teamswitching, kill-farming, stat-padding faggotry they encourage stats are pure fucking evil, addictive to idiots and ruinous to good team games. Them and their stats can get fucked.

maybe over in britain. sounds like you've got shitty stats

[Eraser]

lol

[scared?]

so they are supposed to fix all these bugs in a few days?...rofl...

[Transient]

The beta is using a version of the game that's 2 months older than the version they are working on for launch day, so there's every chance the big bugs people are bitching about were fixed weeks ago.

[Tsakali]

k the obvious question is why would they release a shitty beta that is known to have issues that are supposedly already fixed?
Ignoring that, why would they not release and continue to update a comprehensive list of KNOWN and already RESOLVED issues that plague the beta? Seems to me most of the frustration could be avoided in this way. Looks like there are morons on both sides of this.

[scared?]

The beta is using a version of the game that's 2 months older than the version they are working on for launch day, so there's every chance the big bugs people are bitching about were fixed weeks ago.

lol and the pope is jewish...

[Eraser]

k the obvious question is why would they release a shitty beta that is known to have issues that are supposedly already fixed?

It's simple to answer that: Creating any sort of release for a game takes time. It takes a lot of time. People always assume that, for instance, demos of a game can be released "just like that" [imagine someone snapping his fingers here] but it's not. I guess that at some point they made a snapshot of the codebase and assets and built a release out of that. While they were doing that, the rest of the development team continued fixing bugs and issues which didn't end up in the beta code because that would delay the beta again.

Ignoring that, why would they not release and continue to update a comprehensive list of KNOWN and already RESOLVED issues that plague the beta? Seems to me most of the frustration could be avoided in this way. Looks like there are morons on both sides of this.

Creating updates and patches takes time as well and I bet they'd rather spend that time actually fixing bugs rather than making patches. The goal of a beta is not to deliver a smooth experience, it is to identify the problems that prohibit players from getting a smooth experience. If you've detected them, there's no need to fix them in the beta because that's not what the beta is for.

On the other hand, players seem to be complaining about such serious show stopper bugs that it could be argued that an updated beta that irons out the most obvious problems would allow players to dig deeper into the game and find more obscure bugs more easily.

The third thing here is that, especially with the whole MW3 vs BF3 thing going on, EA and DICE can't really afford such bad exposure. I think some suit at EA thought a public beta would be a good way to promote the game, so I imagine some people at EA thought of this as a glorified demo. If so, then that seriously turned against them and bit them in the ass.

[shaft]

i wanna bet that most of the bugs had already been identified before the beta hit, and the most important thing that they're testing in the beta is the server infrastructure.

[feedback]

[Tsakali]

Eraser my 2nd question was not to implement updates for the beta, but to simply publish info on known issues, that way the beta testers can at least not feel so butt fucked and baffled , and instead try to overlook them and focus on other unknown issues... which I assume is the point of a public beta.

Either way in hindsight, this seems to be a huge fuck up on their end.

[Foo]

A lot of those preorder cancellations are due to the server browser and origin. Unfortunately, there's no conclusive way to prove how many are due to each thing.

Most people aren't dumb enough to cancel a pre-order over bugs in a beta, and most of the noise I'm catching on various forums from people who have played the beta and cancelled pre-orders are leveling the blame squarely at things other than bugs.

[Foo]

Mind you, on the flip-side, if you make a game and services that cater specifically to spastic casuals and thereby ditch a number of elements that would typically be expected for non-casual PC FPS titles, you probably shouldn't release an open beta where said spastic casuals will naturally establish the belief that because the beta is a buggy POS, the final game will also be that way for all time.

Spazzes aren't known for their foresight. They are however known to do retarded things like pre-order games despite it being 2011 where the title can be delivered electronically, rendering pre-order a functionless proposal for the consumer.

[andyman]

Without the free beta I never would have considered playing the game in the first place, so this beta is more like a demo to me. I'll probably get the game because I like playing the beta/demo. Of course, this one doesn't come anywhere near the cod4 beta. THAT was awesome.
Since there are a shit ton of things I don't like about the rush mode in the beta, I'll give the other game types a chance in the full game. Of course it will be on xbox. PC looks like a total shit smearing festival.

[Tsakali]

Spazzes aren't known for their foresight. They are however known to do retarded things like pre-order games despite it being 2011 where the title can be delivered electronically, rendering pre-order a functionless proposal for the consumer.

[Foo]

hey you get a free intangible imaginary weapon though that makes it worth it, amirite.

[shaft]

fake

[Eraser]

Eraser my 2nd question was not to implement updates for the beta, but to simply publish info on known issues, that way the beta testers can at least not feel so butt fucked and baffled , and instead try to overlook them and focus on other unknown issues... which I assume is the point of a public beta.

Either way in hindsight, this seems to be a huge fuck up on their end.

It kind of baffles me that Dice didn't set up some sort of public bug tracking system for this. Not a forum, but something like Bugzilla (or something slightly more userfriendly, heh). The problem with a forum is that people simply come to rant. I think that because of the nature of a bug tracking system you're filtering out 80% of the rants and get valid bug reports instead. It also makes it easier to filter out duplicates or plain rants. It can also serve as a reference for others to see what has been reported and that these reports are being acknowledged by DICE.

In that sense you are right. The communication from DICE to the gaming community should be far better. Gamers want to be heard and while I'm sure they are, DICE should actively let them know they are being heard.