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Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:06 am
by Eraser
Ryoki wrote:Btw they also exposed the Echelon Project many years ago as one of the first main stream media - it’s one of the few newspapers here that still have good investigative reporters and doesn’t blindly copy AP/Reuters. I wubs that newspaper

And they got Youp

Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:55 am
by Therac-25
Eraser wrote:
That is, indeed bullshit. I don't doubt, however, that subliminal messages could, in one way or another, work. It's nothing supernatural or psychic, just psychology. Science.
IIRC from my psych courses (it's been a while) visual subliminial messaging was shown to have some general effect on a person, but that this did not generalize well to an expected behaviour. That is, you could make people slightly happier or sadder with pictures of bunnies or death, but getting them to buy coke and popcorn wouldn't actually work.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:17 pm
by R00k
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:17 pm
by Eraser
Therac-25 wrote:IIRC from my psych courses (it's been a while) visual subliminial messaging was shown to have some general effect on a person, but that this did not generalize well to an expected behaviour. That is, you could make people slightly happier or sadder with pictures of bunnies or death, but getting them to buy coke and popcorn wouldn't actually work.
I can imagine that. I don't believe commercials do subliminal messaging or anything. The biggest power in commercials is getting your brand known and tying it to a certain image.
I do believe however, that things like product placement within a supermarket and packaging do influence shopping behavior.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:42 pm
by glossy
Ryoki wrote:I remember reading an article in a Dutch quality newspaper (NRC) about a year ago on how some weirdo conspiracy theorist had written a letter to said newspaper claiming that many US TV shows broadcast on dutch tv stations had subliminal messages in them, the good old 1 frame word type. Newspaper didn’t believe him of course, but did some checking of its own just for kicks and they were utterly amazed to actually find subliminal messages in the shows… most of it anti drugs or anti terrorism stuff, but also weird words that didn’t seem to make any sense.
They did a front page piece on it, but I can’t find anything on the internet about it, which is a shame. As far as I know this practice continues.
that actually sounds really interesting, shame you can't find any stuff on it.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 2:43 pm
by Zerofactor
S@M wrote:so how can we take this process and use it to get more blow jobs from our wives/girlfriends. That my friends is the real question.
Good question!
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:42 pm
by rep
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:Fry's electronics here in PHX, have you walking down a sort of maze which are nothing but open ended/close sided aisles that are lined top to bottom with knick knacks, candy, cheap dvds/games/cds, and any other sort of impulse item you can think of. it's very successful, especially when the lines are long and slow.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The lines are always long and slow.
I don't think these people understand how strange the assortment of tchotchkes is.
Lava lamps, spy cameras, electric scooters, candy bars, $5 DVDs of classic TV shows (The Lone Ranger, The Lucy Show ((Not I Love Lucy, the show she had after that, lmao.)) etc.) headphones, all sorts of novel toys, coin organizers, knock-offs of the gyroscopic powerball, USB pen drives, Mexican music CDs...
Then when you finally get to the cashier, it's going to be either Lamontè or Tamaranda who never understand that the only reason you bought RAM from Fry's in the first place was because the rebate makes it cheap, and if you don't get the rebate you'll slash the tires on their Escort.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:48 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
rep wrote:+JuggerNaut+ wrote:Fry's electronics here in PHX, have you walking down a sort of maze which are nothing but open ended/close sided aisles that are lined top to bottom with knick knacks, candy, cheap dvds/games/cds, and any other sort of impulse item you can think of. it's very successful, especially when the lines are long and slow.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
The lines are always long and slow.
I don't think these people understand how strange the assortment of tchotchkes is.
Lava lamps, spy cameras, electric scooters, candy bars, $5 DVDs of classic TV shows (The Lone Ranger, The Lucy Show ((Not I Love Lucy, the show she had after that, lmao.)) etc.) headphones, all sorts of novel toys, coin organizers, knock-offs of the gyroscopic powerball, USB pen drives, Mexican music CDs...
Then when you finally get to the cashier, it's going to be either Lamontè or Tamaranda who never understand that the only reason you bought RAM from Fry's in the first place was because the rebate makes it cheap, and if you don't get the rebate you'll slash the tires on their Escort.
:lol: so true. i especially love the retard at the head of the line that lets you know which # register to go to. you just want to punch them in the face for looking so bored after you've spen the last half hour in line.
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:59 pm
by sliver
MKJ wrote:they tried 1 frame commercials once in (i think it was) Germany. that way you wouldnt really see it, but you would register it. subliminal commercials if you will
it was banned quite fast
Bullshit. You can't register anything more complex than a simple shape in a 23rd of a second. I don't believe any of that single-frame subliminal crap they talk about having been put in disney movies. (It may have been there but i bet it didn't work.)
Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:21 pm
by eepberries
SMOKE