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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 1:58 pm
by brisk
Using that argument, highly respected artists such as Brian Eno or Coil are not musicians.
Your views on music are narrow. For someone who preaches music theory, i'm surprised you're not willing to accept that all sound is music. Maybe read up on Cage or Stockhausen sometime.
PS, my track isn't the issue here. I've accepted your criticism, and it really doesn't hurt me to know you don't like it... I didn't expect you to anyway
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:04 pm
by simple
I have to agree about the main drum beat. It feels a little repetitive and simple. I would have liked to hear more diversity in the rhythm and sound. It remind me of the bleu group.
I personally enjoy the last 1/4 of the track. That's when I feel like the song really grows into it's own.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:09 pm
by DRuM
brisk wrote:Using that argument, highly respected artists such as Brian Eno or Coil are not musicians.
Your views on music are narrow. For someone who preaches music theory, i'm surprised you're not willing to accept that all sound is music.
My views are not narrow, I already listed a few genres I like.
All sound is music, yes. So is an alarm bell. Just like in visual art, a cigarette stub in an ashtray is considered. .'art'.
I know you're doing this as a hobby and not professionally so I don't mean to sound harsh, but as usual, amateur hobbyists can't take criticism without getting all defensive.
"I can't really justify posting names of artists I listen to here, as you've probably never heard of many of them anyway, and would be soon to judge them as crap without even taking the time to listen to them."
I doubt I'd eat my words then.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:11 pm
by DRuM
diego wrote:DRuM, I am not trolling, but seriously: I played guitar for more than 23 years by now and I honestly, truly and seriously say - I very, very rarely listen to a whole CD at a time.
That is, because more than one oh-so-gifted and talented musician has got 2 great tunes on his/her CDs and fills it up with styrofoam.
If you don't love every single track of 'robben ford and the blueline' CD, I'll give you your money back!
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:13 pm
by werldhed
I think it sounds ok, much better than the whistles and buzzes of a lot of the techno out there, and the drum beat isn't something that reminds you of a diesel lawnmower. I would say it's pleasant to listen to, but for some reason it keeps skipping on my computer. The hell?
My main gripe is not that it lacks musicianship, but that it sounds too fakey. The drums sound like, well, like they're from a drum machine. I would say it would be much more impressive if you got a troupe to play the song on instruments. Then the sound quality would be great.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:17 pm
by brisk
Well, as you wish....
http://www.thepuzl.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/list.txt
Thats the listing straight from my HDD's (sub-folders not included). I don't claim to own all of the releases, but I don't actually have to physically own them to appreciate them.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:22 pm
by diego
DRuM wrote:If you don't love every single track of 'robben ford and the blueline' CD, I'll give you your money back!
cunt... Okay, that's a rare exception.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:34 pm
by Doombrain
brisk wrote:Well, as you wish....
http://www.thepuzl.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/list.txt
Thats the listing straight from my HDD's (sub-folders not included). I don't claim to own all of the releases, but I don't actually have to physically own them to appreciate them.
Crushed.
Christ drum, you're not even a professional, not in the way you’re suggesting. You’re not part of a popular or successful band. You’ve not made millions in record sales and no one knows your face. You just teach kids to play the drums, lol. Just shut the fuck up. You remind me of Jeremy Clarkson talking about good music and what dance music is, you fucking old fart.
PS, I’ll see you in September.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:34 pm
by DRuM
diego wrote:DRuM wrote:If you don't love every single track of 'robben ford and the blueline' CD, I'll give you your money back!
cunt... Okay, that's a rare exception.
Actually, listen to the right stuff and you'll find plenty of exceptions.
:icon25:
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:36 pm
by DRuM
brisk wrote:Well, as you wish....
http://www.thepuzl.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/list.txt
Thats the listing straight from my HDD's (sub-folders not included). I don't claim to own all of the releases, but I don't actually have to physically own them to appreciate them.
Looking at that list of hundreds of names, apart from bjork, michael jackson, massive attack, fat boy slim and one or two others, I haven't heard of any of them. Whatever happened to most of the genres I listed above? Don't you like any of them? I'm assuming all your mp3s listed there are of the techno/electronica style variety, no? I'll bet very few of your mp3's have real live musicans playing in the studio, it's mostly programmed stuff, right? No? You can hardly call me narrow in my musical views going by your taste.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:38 pm
by Doombrain
DRuM wrote:brisk wrote:Well, as you wish....
http://www.thepuzl.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/list.txt
Thats the listing straight from my HDD's (sub-folders not included). I don't claim to own all of the releases, but I don't actually have to physically own them to appreciate them.
Looking at that list of hundreds of names, apart from bjork, michael jackson, massive attack, fat boy slim and one or two others, I haven't heard of any of them. Whatever happened to most of the genres I listed above? Don't you like any of them? I'm assuming all your mp3s listed there are of the techno/electronica style variety, no? I'll bet very few of your mp3's have real live musicans playing in the studio, it's mostly programmed stuff, right? No? You can hardly call me narrow in my musical views going by your taste.
If you’ve never heard of them, how can you make that assumption??
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:39 pm
by DRuM
Doombrain wrote:
Crushed.
Christ drum, you're not even a professional, not in the way you’re suggesting. You’re not part of a popular or successful band. You’ve not made millions in record sales and no one knows your face. You just teach kids to play the drums, lol. Just shut the fuck up. You remind me of Jeremy Clarkson talking about good music and what dance music is, you fucking old fart.
PS, I’ll see you in September.
That's such an ignorant comment and nothing to do with this discussion.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:40 pm
by Doombrain
lol OK.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:41 pm
by DRuM
Doombrain wrote:DRuM wrote:brisk wrote:Well, as you wish....
http://www.thepuzl.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/list.txt
Thats the listing straight from my HDD's (sub-folders not included). I don't claim to own all of the releases, but I don't actually have to physically own them to appreciate them.
Looking at that list of hundreds of names, apart from bjork, michael jackson, massive attack, fat boy slim and one or two others, I haven't heard of any of them. Whatever happened to most of the genres I listed above? Don't you like any of them? I'm assuming all your mp3s listed there are of the techno/electronica style variety, no? I'll bet very few of your mp3's have real live musicans playing in the studio, it's mostly programmed stuff, right? No? You can hardly call me narrow in my musical views going by your taste.
If you’ve never heard of them, how can you make that assumption??
Because I know more about music than you!
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:41 pm
by brisk
DRuM wrote:brisk wrote:Well, as you wish....
http://www.thepuzl.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/list.txt
Thats the listing straight from my HDD's (sub-folders not included). I don't claim to own all of the releases, but I don't actually have to physically own them to appreciate them.
Looking at that list of hundreds of names, apart from bjork, michael jackson, massive attack, fat boy slim and one or two others, I haven't heard of any of them. Whatever happened to most of the genres I listed above? Don't you like any of them? I'm assuming all your mp3s listed there are of the techno/electronica style variety, no? I'll bet very few of your mp3's have real live musicans playing in the studio, it's mostly programmed stuff, right? No? You can hardly call me narrow in my musical views going by your taste.
You said it yourself: assume assume assume
As I say, you'll never know because you're stuck in your own little musical ideology.
I'm not trying to insult you btw, and as far as i'm concerned, you're a nice guy. But this is just one area we differ wildly on
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:46 pm
by Ryoki
brisk wrote:Well, as you wish....
http://www.thepuzl.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/list.txt
Thats the listing straight from my HDD's (sub-folders not included). I don't claim to own all of the releases, but I don't actually have to physically own them to appreciate them.
<b>Speedy_J_and_Chris_Liebing-Collabs_301-12NOMU141-2005-sweet</b>
OMG!! Hook me up with this pretty please!! :icon28:
Speedy J and Chris Liebing are my heroes
Saw them do a live set two weeks ago, it was fucking incredible... i must have it!
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:48 pm
by DRuM
brisk wrote:
You said it yourself: assume assume assume
As I say, you'll never know because you're stuck in your own little musical ideology.
I'm not trying to insult you btw, and as far as i'm concerned, you're a nice guy. But this is just one area we differ wildly on
If it's any consolation, I differ wildly in musical taste from a lot of people at q3w. :icon26:
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:51 pm
by brisk
Ryoki wrote:brisk wrote:Well, as you wish....
http://www.thepuzl.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/temp/list.txt
Thats the listing straight from my HDD's (sub-folders not included). I don't claim to own all of the releases, but I don't actually have to physically own them to appreciate them.
<b>Speedy_J_and_Chris_Liebing-Collabs_301-12NOMU141-2005-sweet</b>
OMG!! Hook me up with this pretty please!! :icon28:
Speedy J and Chris Liebing are my heroes
Saw them do a live set two weeks ago, it was fucking incredible... i must have it!
Sure, though its not that great IMO. Just your usual stand-up aggressive techno affair. Speedy J peaked around the G-Spot era for me. I love that album.
PM me.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:54 pm
by diego
throbbing gristle just fucking fucking owns!
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 2:56 pm
by brisk
diego wrote:throbbing gristle just fucking fucking owns!
ssssh, they've been known to use synthesisers and drum machines! heresy!!!!
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:00 pm
by Ryoki
brisk wrote:
Sure, though its not that great IMO. Just your usual stand-up aggressive techno affair. Speedy J peaked around the G-Spot era for me. I love that album.
PM me.
Sent!
G-spot huh? Hmm, i must admit i don't even know that one, lol... i have the Public Energy #1 and Loudboxer albums tho, both very good (imo).
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:03 pm
by DRuM
I just checked out throbbing gristle. I am sorry, but that really is utter CRAP! I'm insulting the band brisk, not you.
Diego, it's no surprise to me you can't find an album full of good songs if that's the kind of shit you listen to.
Listen to this garbage. Christ sake!
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/st ... 15-0565613
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:05 pm
by 4days
Ryoki wrote:G-spot huh? Hmm, i must admit i don't even know that one, lol
kids today, i dunno
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:05 pm
by Doombrain
Who's up for beating the shit out of drum when we meet? Not that I’ll need the help.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2005 3:06 pm
by DRuM
Doombrain wrote:Who's up for beating the shit out of drum when we meet? Not that I’ll need the help.
