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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:12 am
by Canis
werldhed wrote:Something like this? This is scanning-tunneling microscopy.

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Now who's to say that's not just some 3d studio max artwork made by some scientist who's bullshitting you about what's really going on? :p

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:20 am
by mjrpes
That was a pretty neat video. Nice link Kracus.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:26 am
by tnf
Maybe he is referring to the diffraction patters generated during X-ray cyrtallography. I got to work in a crystallography lab for a few months way back when. Interesting stuff, expensive machines. I remember the good old days of SGI workstations. But getting proteins to crystallize can be a real pain in the ass.

And werldheld tell me about Fourier transformations and crystallography.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:28 am
by tnf
Oops, didn't see the link - but I am too lazy to watch it at the moment.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 4:31 am
by Canidae
Nightshade wrote:Pfft, that's nothing. I invented it. I call it Atom-O-Vision!!!
I got a beaming machine.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 8:08 am
by Nightshade
Kracus wrote:Oh no I'm sure he needed that cleared up. :dork:

Anyway yeah I didn't know the name of the machine but the pics still don't look anything like that first one he posted. It's kinda neat though isn't it?
Yeah, it was neat when IBM wrote their logo with it about 10 year ago.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:19 am
by glossy
Canidae wrote:I got a beaming machine.
for when you're really happy? :D

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 9:21 am
by MKJ
Canidae wrote:
Nightshade wrote:Pfft, that's nothing. I invented it. I call it Atom-O-Vision!!!
I got a beaming machine.
yea me too. i use it to see in the dark :icon14:

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:56 am
by werldhed
tnf wrote:Maybe he is referring to the diffraction patters generated during X-ray cyrtallography. I got to work in a crystallography lab for a few months way back when. Interesting stuff, expensive machines. I remember the good old days of SGI workstations. But getting proteins to crystallize can be a real pain in the ass.

And werldheld tell me about Fourier transformations and crystallography.
:confused: Why do want me to tell you about them? Do you miss testing your students? ;)
All I know about crystallography is basic stuff you learn in any chem class: you know, x-rays refracted off of molecules, using the pattern to determine molecule structure, Rosalind Franklin, Watson & Crick, etc. Kracus' description made me think of those patterns, too, which is why I mentioned it, but I think I've seen STM images that look more like what he was talking about.

I have no idea what Fourier transformations are -- never even heard of them. :shrug:

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:11 pm
by Nightshade
I believe he's referring to Fourier transforms. http://mathworld.wolfram.com/FourierTransform.html

Basically you can use them to examine a signal and extract its frequency components.

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:55 pm
by werldhed
That sounds like math and phyisics. *hides in the corner*

So is that the sort of thing that's used to process radio signals?

Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:03 pm
by Nightshade
All sorts of signal processing applications, yes.