a great american...

Post by **rep** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:27 am

Big Kahuna Burger wrote:
rep wrote:Canada has them... You have to go through a virtual obstacle course before earning Canadian citizenship. Our country is better, so why is it so easy for the filth to come here?
Because we share a border with them you dumb cunt

No. You failed to understand anything I wrote, because I was addressing the problem of overpopulation and open borders, not specifically the illegals coming here through the desert.

Post by **duffman91** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:25 am

rep wrote:
duffman91 wrote:I see why they'd be a nuisance, however I don't understand all the hatred for illegal immigrants.

The argument of: "They take american jobs" is absolutelly bullshit.

How many americans over the age of 18 do you know who would really like to clean toilets and work fast food joints?

Sending illegal immigrants to an INS office is like taking a man who stole bread to jail.
You are totally uneducated in this matter, .Fine mod, have it your way.

I appreciate your opinion, but I am certainly educated on the matter.

I am a legal hispanic immigrant in the U.S. I have known and have grown up around illegal immigrants in this country.

The video took place in L.A. if I recall. That's why I asked.

Post by **duffman91** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:29 am

horton wrote:

it fucking pisses me off when i get shitty looks for being an immigrant based on the actions of the illegal immigrants who are responsible for a large amount of the crime in japan.

I know exactly how you feel.

Living in Vegas, there is a huge amount of anti-hispanic sentiment by Republicans.

I do find, though, that many people turn the argument into a racism contest.

Post by **rep** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:41 am

Listen duffman, turn off Galavision because I've got some noticias for you.

Mexicans come here to work jobs that are illegal for Americans to work.

Americans won't work jobs like picking tomatoes because the industry pay rate is so low because it has to compete with $2 hourly figures that farmers pay Mexicans. If it was a minimum wage job with benefits and a decent pay-raise ceiling, then sure, some Americans would work in the fields instead of doing other minimum wage jobs. It wouldn't bother me one bit if I was fresh out of high school and wanted to get a tan.

Also, regarding your racism comment... Have you looked at Mexican society lately? Even though they may have American citizenship, they fail to blend in with our system. They wave their fucking ugly flag around, speak Spanish, send their profits back home to their family (ie. coyote/drug lords who need paid P100,000 to send their family into America or else they'll all be prostitutes.) Mexicans don't even blend in with American society as well as the orientals do, and that's saying something.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:48 am

you know what's worse than being mexican? being American

Post by **rep** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 6:53 am

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:you know what's worse than being mexican? being American

How so? America runs the planet, and since we haven't found life anywhere else yet, you can assume that America runs the Universe.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:05 am

rep wrote:Americans won't work jobs like picking tomatoes because the industry pay rate is so low because it has to compete with $2 hourly figures that farmers pay Mexicans. If it was a minimum wage job with benefits and a decent pay-raise ceiling, then sure, some Americans would work in the fields instead of doing other minimum wage jobs. It wouldn't bother me one bit if I was fresh out of high school and wanted to get a tan.

Don't you think that the farmers that employ them are also part of the problem?

Blaming a people may be misguided, and distracts from the systemic problems.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:19 am

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:you know what's worse than being mexican? being American

boo hoo

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:21 am

[xeno]Julios wrote:Don't you think that the farmers that employ them are also part of the problem?

Blaming a people may be misguided, and distracts from the systemic problems.

he's already pointed that out above, in the nice big red font of a post.

Post by **[xeno]Julios** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:36 am

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
[xeno]Julios wrote:Don't you think that the farmers that employ them are also part of the problem?

Blaming a people may be misguided, and distracts from the systemic problems.
he's already pointed that out above, in the nice big red font of a post.

yeah, but it's obvious he detests the mexicans for playing their role in this system.

Post by **+JuggerNaut+** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:42 am

i detest both, but not one over the other.

*edit* illegal mexicans that is..

Post by **rep** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:08 am

[xeno]Julios wrote:
rep wrote:Americans won't work jobs like picking tomatoes because the industry pay rate is so low because it has to compete with $2 hourly figures that farmers pay Mexicans. If it was a minimum wage job with benefits and a decent pay-raise ceiling, then sure, some Americans would work in the fields instead of doing other minimum wage jobs. It wouldn't bother me one bit if I was fresh out of high school and wanted to get a tan.
Don't you think that the farmers that employ them are also part of the problem?

Blaming a people may be misguided, and distracts from the systemic problems.

Did you not read anything I say?

Problem 1: Illegal Mexicans
Problem 2: American Enablers (A lot of times they're legal former Mexicans who have come to milk our system that we've been working on for 385 years.) (This includes co-ops, farmers, inside people at places of work such as Wal-Mart human resources pricks who know it's a fake ID but need to fill the super high turnover rate Wal-Mart has, people in politics such as Jeb and George Bush who to get votes do things such as push rumors around that, "Oh yeah, after the election I'll appoint Alberto Gonzales as the Attorney General. I love me some Latinos." and ease pressures off the border, for example when Border Patrol Chief David V. Aguilar ordered the border patrol to cease arrests along the expanse of land the Minute Men were patrolling, to diffuse their effectiveness and get the media off of them to appease the Mexicans.)

Easy way of solving a lot of problems:

1. At least half of the money you make in this country stays in this country if you're a green card worker.
2. Citizenship is a privilege, not a right. Grant citizenship to people who would be assets to our society. They must speak English, have at least a high school education, and be familiar with the way America works. Do you know there is an industry for translators in the border states? Wal-Mart hires these people and therefor are enablers to the Mexicans who refuse to learn English, because they feel it's worth the extra profit they'll get in shitholes where they drop a big box.
3. Serious penalties for convicted "Enablers." Jailtime means nothing. Give them huge fines.
4. Sorry mamacita, the old "get pregnant in the states" trick doesn't work anymore.

Post by **Nightshade** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:29 am

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:you know what's worse than being mexican? being American

Go fuck yourself.

Post by **busetibi** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:44 am

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:you know what's worse than being mexican? being American

or canadian

Post by **diego** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:52 am

rep wrote:Listen duffman, turn off Galavision because I've got some noticias for you.

Mexicans come here to work jobs that are illegal for Americans to work.

Americans won't work jobs like picking tomatoes because the industry pay rate is so low because it has to compete with $2 hourly figures that farmers pay Mexicans. If it was a minimum wage job with benefits and a decent pay-raise ceiling, then sure, some Americans would work in the fields instead of doing other minimum wage jobs. It wouldn't bother me one bit if I was fresh out of high school and wanted to get a tan.

Also, regarding your racism comment... Have you looked at Mexican society lately? Even though they may have American citizenship, they fail to blend in with our system. They wave their fucking ugly flag around, speak Spanish, send their profits back home to their family (ie. coyote/drug lords who need paid P100,000 to send their family into America or else they'll all be prostitutes.) Mexicans don't even blend in with American society as well as the orientals do, and that's saying something.

What a retard.

Post by **Nightshade** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:53 am

Hate to say this diego, but for once, rep's right.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:54 am

busetibi wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:you know what's worse than being mexican? being American
or canadian

yep

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:58 am

Nightshade wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:you know what's worse than being mexican? being American
Go fuck yourself.

you must really hate Mexican's to have gotten offended by that comment.

Post by **Nightshade** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:03 pm

I took it for what it was worth.

Post by **diego** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:07 pm

Nightshade wrote:Hate to say this diego, but for once, rep's right.

Don't disturb my perfectly placed troll, please!

Post by **rep** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:11 pm

I'm never worng. See that? worng is the new wrong. Why? Because I say so.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:11 pm

rep wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:you know what's worse than being mexican? being American
How so? America runs the planet, and since we haven't found life anywhere else yet, you can assume that America runs the Universe.

i love your simplistic understanding of the world. it causes me no end amusement

Post by **diego** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:17 pm

rep wrote:I'm never worng. See that? worng is the new wrong. Why? Because I say so.

worng is the new wrong because you're a fucking idiot.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:28 pm

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:you know what's worse than being mexican? being American
boo hoo

ha ha

Post by **rep** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 12:30 pm

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:i love your simplistic understanding of the world. it causes me no end amusement

It's that simple. If America says, "Bend over." The world replies, "How far?"

a great american...

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