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Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:32 am
by Ryoki
Dave wrote:it is the only man made object (or was) visible from space without a satellite
No it's not:

http://www.snopes.com/science/greatwal.htm

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:34 am
by Dave
Ryoki wrote:
Dave wrote:it is the only man made object (or was) visible from space without a satellite
No it's not:

http://www.snopes.com/science/greatwal.htm
like it says, space is a general term. certainly not the moon though...

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:39 am
by rep
Great Wall Of China: 37°41'59N, 107°31'27E Low resolution.

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:45 am
by Ryoki
Dave wrote: like it says, space is a general term. certainly not the moon though...

I'm willing to bet you'd lose track of the Great Wall long before you'd fail to spot the great pyramids. It's more tall and long than it is wide.

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:47 am
by Brian Slade
'Technically' The Highest Altitude Point on Earth (Chimborazo, Ecuador).
1°28'10.98"S, 78°48'48.56"W

Not seen this one on any other sites yet. Doesnt look special, but still interesting.

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 9:48 am
by Dave
if you set the altimeter to 180 miles and look in the area of the wall I pointed out, you can still see the ridge it runs along. I dont think the thing about being able to see the wall is true, but you can see the path the wall follows

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:00 am
by rep
Gwen Stefani's favorite place, Harajuku Station: 35°39'29.64"N, 139°42'7.20"E

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:07 am
by Brian Slade
Michael Jacksons Playground - 34°44'43.43"N, 120° 5'16.82"W

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:15 am
by MKJ
Dave wrote:I found the great wall.. it shouldnt be too hard considering it is the only man made object (or was) visible from space without a satellite
snopes.com :icon10:

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:27 am
by Dave
I read the snopes thing.. it says the moon, not low earth orbit

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:27 am
by MKJ
you didnt read more than the first paragraph then
If we take "space" to mean a low Earth orbit such as the one travelled by the Space Shuttle (roughly 160 to 350 miles above Earth), the Great Wall claim fails twice. First of all, it's not the only object visible from that distance: NASA's Earth from Space photographic archive (particularly the Human Interactions section) shows that pictures taken from low orbit reveal human-built structures such as highways, airports, bridges, dams, and components of the Kennedy Space Center. Secondly, even though other objects are visible at this distance, according to Shuttle astronaut Jay Apt, the Great Wall is barely discernable, if not invisible:


We look for the Great Wall of China. Although we can see things as small as airport runways, the Great Wall seems to be made largely of materials that have the same color as the surrounding soil. Despite persistent stories that it can be seen from the moon, the Great Wall is almost invisible from only 180 miles up!

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:30 am
by rep
Hey, in layers click on User-Supplied Collections, and then check webcams.

Fucking cool. Here's just the Los Angeles area. It's a little cluttered looking, but it still rules.

Image

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:32 am
by Dave
MKJ wrote:you didnt read more than the first paragraph then
If we take "space" to mean a low Earth orbit such as the one travelled by the Space Shuttle (roughly 160 to 350 miles above Earth), the Great Wall claim fails twice. First of all, it's not the only object visible from that distance: NASA's Earth from Space photographic archive (particularly the Human Interactions section) shows that pictures taken from low orbit reveal human-built structures such as highways, airports, bridges, dams, and components of the Kennedy Space Center. Secondly, even though other objects are visible at this distance, according to Shuttle astronaut Jay Apt, the Great Wall is barely discernable, if not invisible:


We look for the Great Wall of China. Although we can see things as small as airport runways, the Great Wall seems to be made largely of materials that have the same color as the surrounding soil. Despite persistent stories that it can be seen from the moon, the Great Wall is almost invisible from only 180 miles up!
read my last post. I said you can't see the wall, you can see the ridge it runs along. You can't see it at all in the section i referenced, but it's there following the ridge

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:33 am
by Kammesennin
anyone able to find Incirlik Elementary school in Turkey, or maybe the on-base housing development there. I'm trying to find that area because I lived there from when i was 4 to when i was 8, and might be visiting sometime soon, and I need to remember how to get places, and I'll only be able to figure it out from my old house which I could find from the school, or anywhere in the neighborhood. Any help would be much appreciated. *Still looking* Will post if I find it.

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 10:37 am
by MKJ
Dave wrote:
MKJ wrote:you didnt read more than the first paragraph then
If we take "space" to mean a low Earth orbit such as the one travelled by the Space Shuttle (roughly 160 to 350 miles above Earth), the Great Wall claim fails twice. First of all, it's not the only object visible from that distance: NASA's Earth from Space photographic archive (particularly the Human Interactions section) shows that pictures taken from low orbit reveal human-built structures such as highways, airports, bridges, dams, and components of the Kennedy Space Center. Secondly, even though other objects are visible at this distance, according to Shuttle astronaut Jay Apt, the Great Wall is barely discernable, if not invisible:


We look for the Great Wall of China. Although we can see things as small as airport runways, the Great Wall seems to be made largely of materials that have the same color as the surrounding soil. Despite persistent stories that it can be seen from the moon, the Great Wall is almost invisible from only 180 miles up!
read my last post. I said you can't see the wall, you can see the ridge it runs along. You can't see it at all in the section i referenced, but it's there following the ridge
thats something else :) i was just responding to the "it is the only man made object (or was) visible from space without a satellite" part

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:58 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
rep wrote:Hey, in layers click on User-Supplied Collections, and then check webcams.

Fucking cool. Here's just the Los Angeles area. It's a little cluttered looking, but it still rules.

Image
sick

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:04 pm
by werldhed
I was ignoring the Google program because I already have NASA Worldwind, but I take it that this one is much better, yes?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:17 pm
by dzjepp
Well, it has a better interface, and it will probably receive more updates than worldwind (like more high-res cities) also it has a nice collection of user submitted spots for information like webcams and all that other jazz.

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:18 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
dzjepp wrote:Well, it has a better interface, and it will probably receive more updates than worldwind (like more high-res cities) also it has a nice collection of user submitted spots for information like webcams and all that other jazz.
all what other jazz?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:18 pm
by dzjepp
Kammesennin wrote:anyone able to find Incirlik Elementary school in Turkey, or maybe the on-base housing development there. I'm trying to find that area because I lived there from when i was 4 to when i was 8, and might be visiting sometime soon, and I need to remember how to get places, and I'll only be able to figure it out from my old house which I could find from the school, or anywhere in the neighborhood. Any help would be much appreciated. *Still looking* Will post if I find it.
So the city would be Incirlik?

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:19 pm
by dzjepp
dzjepp wrote:What the heck is this, looks like a stealth fighter imprint ;s

77°33'00.52"S, 59°00'49.27"W
=o

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:19 pm
by dzjepp
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
dzjepp wrote:Well, it has a better interface, and it will probably receive more updates than worldwind (like more high-res cities) also it has a nice collection of user submitted spots for information like webcams and all that other jazz.
all what other jazz?
BB King

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:20 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
:|

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:20 pm
by dzjepp
=D

Posted: Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:24 pm
by dzjepp
Mostly jazz from here: http://bbs.keyhole.com/boards/ubbthreads/

It fetches varying amounts of the user submitted stuff from there I dunno how frequently though. When you turn on all the 'keyhole bbs' and 'user submitted' layers in GE it adds a ton of extra placemarks to check out all over the world.