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And listen through my mp3 player? Too much work.

Instead you want to sit there and stare at album art?

Or maybe if you're so worried about the 1% difference in performance you'd notice, stop listening to music and get the fucking thing done with no distractions?

rep wrote:I have 2GB. I don't want to worry about performance when I'm trying to finish some Photoshop project that has 400 layers at 300DPI and 5000x3000 resolution.

Then deal you retard..

Change your scratch sizes or something to offset that whole 50 megs.. ffs guy its 50 megs.. 50, thats it, a whole 50..

christ your a baby..

Dave wrote:

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:

Dave wrote: It sucks when you put something on before you go to bed and some loud-ass song comes on at 4 am that wakes you up from a dead sleep

i can understand that, but what normalizing does technically makes me want to hurl.

that's why I turned it off

Normalizing is a bit misleading.. Attenuating is better. But you can imagine my horror when my speakers all of a sudden started barfing on high frequencies. Luckily I figured out what was causing it

Okay, this thread finally made me register a new account.

I don't know too much about audio stuff so I was wondering what anyone suggests about "attenuating" music. I've been using the normalizer feature but didn't know it hurts quality and I definitely don't want to do that. How can you level the volumes without fucking stuff up?

Ray Finkle wrote:

Dave wrote:

+JuggerNaut+ wrote: i can understand that, but what normalizing does technically makes me want to hurl.

that's why I turned it off

Normalizing is a bit misleading.. Attenuating is better. But you can imagine my horror when my speakers all of a sudden started barfing on high frequencies. Luckily I figured out what was causing it

Okay, this thread finally made me register a new account.

I don't know too much about audio stuff so I was wondering what anyone suggests about "attenuating" music. I've been using the normalizer feature but didn't know it hurts quality and I definitely don't want to do that. How can you level the volumes without fucking stuff up?

THE LACES WERE IN! THEY WERE IN!

Well, I have a pair of $1000 JM Lab speakers that accentuate the distortion like mad. It's possible that a pair of ordinary computer speakers may not reveal those distortions, plus it only really does it at high volumes. I expect my little speakers at work to do it, but I dont expect it when I go home.

The best way is to turn it off, unless the foobar plugins do a better job. I havent experimented with them, but the guy who wrote that app always seemed to me like he was paying attention to detail

Well, I am trying to inevitably put all my music on my computer, and from there it will see many different speakers, from an mp3 players to a good home theatre system so I'm going for quality. I just want to not have to change the volume every few songs.

Ray Finkle wrote:I just want to not have to change the volume every few songs.

http://mp3gain.sourceforge.net/

Ray Finkle wrote:. I just want to not have to change the volume every few songs.

Well.. if you didnt pirate your music, then you wouldnt have to..

^_^

SOAPboy wrote:

Ray Finkle wrote:. I just want to not have to change the volume every few songs.

Well.. if you didnt pirate your music, then you wouldnt have to..

^_^

Judging by his post, he doesnt pirate his music

Dave wrote:

SOAPboy wrote:

Ray Finkle wrote:. I just want to not have to change the volume every few songs.

Well.. if you didnt pirate your music, then you wouldnt have to..

^_^

Judging by his post, he doesnt pirate his music

Then he needs to learn how to rip his music.. because he can set the db level to all his music equal..

SOAPboy wrote:

Ray Finkle wrote:. I just want to not have to change the volume every few songs.

Well.. if you didnt pirate your music, then you wouldnt have to..

^_^

I don't.

Ray Finkle wrote:

SOAPboy wrote:

Ray Finkle wrote:. I just want to not have to change the volume every few songs.

Well.. if you didnt pirate your music, then you wouldnt have to..

^_^

I don't.

Its time you set your db levels when you rip your music then... if you rip your own stuff, you shouldnt need a plugin like that.. ^_^

SOAPboy wrote:

Dave wrote:

SOAPboy wrote: Well.. if you didnt pirate your music, then you wouldnt have to..

^_^

Judging by his post, he doesnt pirate his music

Then he needs to learn how to rip his music.. because he can set the db level to all his music equal..

Not all music was produced at the same levels... That's how you generate distortion, which is why normalizing makes juggernaut want to hurl

Dave wrote:

SOAPboy wrote:

Dave wrote: Judging by his post, he doesnt pirate his music

Then he needs to learn how to rip his music.. because he can set the db level to all his music equal..

Not all music was produced at the same levels... That's how you generate distortion, which is why normalizing makes juggernaut want to hurl

So rip music at a lower db level.. O_o

maybe i dont see the huge deal here.. i have a pretty nice system in my blazer, and honestly, i listen to all kinds of MP3s in there.. low db stuff, high db stuff... and honestly that dont change the quality at all.. its bit rate that really gets all gay..

*shrug

Dave wrote:

SOAPboy wrote:

Dave wrote: Judging by his post, he doesnt pirate his music

Then he needs to learn how to rip his music.. because he can set the db level to all his music equal..

Not all music was produced at the same levels... That's how you generate distortion, which is why normalizing makes juggernaut want to hurl

Okay, so then ripping at the same levels isn't a good thing? I'm lost here.

SOAPboy wrote:

Dave wrote:

SOAPboy wrote: Then he needs to learn how to rip his music.. because he can set the db level to all his music equal..

Not all music was produced at the same levels... That's how you generate distortion, which is why normalizing makes juggernaut want to hurl

So rip music at a lower db level.. O_o

maybe i dont see the huge deal here.. i have a pretty nice system in my blazer, and honestly, i listen to all kinds of MP3s in there.. low db stuff, high db stuff... and honestly that dont change the quality at all.. its bit rate that really gets all gay..

*shrug

I guess you're the expert then

prince1000 wrote:

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:

prince1000 wrote:foobar2000 u nerd

i didn't know fubar could display images.

w/plugin

i dont use foobar but:

http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/ind ... opic=29383

nice, never knew

Dave wrote:

SOAPboy wrote:

Dave wrote: Not all music was produced at the same levels... That's how you generate distortion, which is why normalizing makes juggernaut want to hurl

So rip music at a lower db level.. O_o

maybe i dont see the huge deal here.. i have a pretty nice system in my blazer, and honestly, i listen to all kinds of MP3s in there.. low db stuff, high db stuff... and honestly that dont change the quality at all.. its bit rate that really gets all gay..

*shrug

I guess you're the expert then

Dave if im wrong, correct me.. but DOWNING the db isnt hurting the sound quality.. o_O

its UPPING it to crazy levels, and destroying the sample rates..

Ray Finkle wrote:

Dave wrote:

SOAPboy wrote: Then he needs to learn how to rip his music.. because he can set the db level to all his music equal..

Not all music was produced at the same levels... That's how you generate distortion, which is why normalizing makes juggernaut want to hurl

Okay, so then ripping at the same levels isn't a good thing? I'm lost here.

Well if you want to rip everything at volume '2', if such a thing existed, and one cd is centered around '3' and another around '1', the lower volume cd will be amplified, probably with distortion added and the higher volume cd will be squeezed through a limiter that will introduce even more distortion. I have yet to see a piece of software attenuate a file that doesn't cause distortion.

It's best to rip your collection normally and apply something like FragaGeddon suggested that doesn't modify the actual file, if you use anything at all. At least you won't have to rerip all your stuff when you find out the normalizer did a poor job.

Okay thanks man that cleared it up.

SOAPboy wrote:

Ray Finkle wrote:. I just want to not have to change the volume every few songs.

Well.. if you didnt pirate your music, then you wouldnt have to..

^_^

what the hell? you have no idea what you're talking about.

mp3 gain is the only software that i know of that is a true lossless transcoder. use it if you're concerned with levels.

soap, go away, you're in over your head.

I use foobar and it kicks ass, here is my set up!