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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 10:17 pm
by SplishSplash
duffman91 wrote:What the fuck are you talking about? Getting games to work on any linux is the same. The BSD's however, are a challenge.
I think he was talking about Linux in general.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 12:07 am
by Postal
Ok, I'm going to use Ubuntu, but this whole Dual-Boot thing has me confused.

What would be a good partitioning software to use?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:37 am
by l0g1c
Using gentoo here. Good docs/support and a great package manager.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:38 am
by l0g1c
Postal wrote:Ok, I'm going to use Ubuntu, but this whole Dual-Boot thing has me confused.

What would be a good partitioning software to use?
fdisk?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:41 am
by Deathshroud
l0g1c wrote:Using gentoo here. Good docs/support and a great package manager.
I would attempt to get into Gentoo, but I've never compiled a kernel or any of that, so it will take me more time than I have to figure it out atm.

But all of its key features really interest me.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 2:45 am
by Postal
Don't all linux versions involve kernel compiling?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:05 am
by Seg
No, all distros come with at least one precompiled kernel that gets installed. You may need to compile a new one if the precompiled one doesn't support all your hardware or you want a customised kernel.

If you have everything working under the live cd then there's probably no need to compile.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:13 am
by Postal
Alright, I've gotten everything set up and running, using Ubuntu (even got around a pesky resolution fuckup). The dual-boot thing didn't work out, so I just went and reformatted.

Thanks for all your help.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:23 am
by l0g1c
Deathshroud wrote:
l0g1c wrote:Using gentoo here. Good docs/support and a great package manager.
I would attempt to get into Gentoo, but I've never compiled a kernel or any of that, so it will take me more time than I have to figure it out atm.

But all of its key features really interest me.
If you do try gentoo, start out with a stage 3 install w/ genkernel. After you become more familiar with the distro (and/or linux in general) move to a stage 2. A stage 1 install is for people with lots of time on their hands and lots of patience, but you can pare down a gentoo install to squeeze every ounce of performance out of a machine.

With gentoo, you compile most packages to your own tastes. You can still use binaries, but most packages compile and install in a fairly quick manner to begin with, so it really doesn't bother me.

Gentoo will take longer to get a good base down, but after you've done that, it's easy as pie to maintain and it doesn't have a lot of the glut that some other distros have.

I've tried Debian and Redhat as well, but I've really taken to gentoo. Emerge > apt > rpm in my book.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:27 am
by +JuggerNaut+
Postal wrote:Alright, I've gotten everything set up and running, using Ubuntu (even got around a pesky resolution fuckup). The dual-boot thing didn't work out, so I just went and reformatted.

Thanks for all your help.
i'm curious as to what "didn't work out"?

page two \o/

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 9:42 am
by SOAPboy
duffman91 wrote:
Deathshroud wrote:
duffman91 wrote: What the fuck are you talking about? Getting games to work on any linux is the same. The BSD's however, are a challenge.
Perhaps he means getting Windows games to run in Linux?
Its the same process on all distributions of Linux.
K.. get steam to work..

get WoW to work.

Get Swat 4 To work..

Oh, and get them to work 100% speed and not be bogged down by Wine..

oh thats right, you cant..

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:06 am
by 4days
gentoo's great. only been using it for a while - but it's getting rare that i need to boot into windows during the day (haven't looked at wine at all yet).

i know next to fuckall about linux, but the docs on the gentoo site are clear enough to get you through an install - and searching the forums turns up info to get over any stumbling blocks.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:28 pm
by duffman91
SOAPboy wrote:
duffman91 wrote:
Deathshroud wrote: Perhaps he means getting Windows games to run in Linux?
Its the same process on all distributions of Linux.
K.. get steam to work..

get WoW to work.

Get Swat 4 To work..

Oh, and get them to work 100% speed and not be bogged down by Wine..

oh thats right, you cant..
Either you're a moron, or you don't know how to read. I am saying that the process to get any game running in Linux is the same. Wether or not a game has poor performance is outside the scope of the comment.

If you re-read the earlier posts, you'd also see that I was refering to Ubuntu in respect to other distributions. Your post misled me to think you were singling out Ubuntu vs others.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:42 pm
by SOAPboy
duffman91 wrote:
SOAPboy wrote:
duffman91 wrote: Its the same process on all distributions of Linux.
K.. get steam to work..

get WoW to work.

Get Swat 4 To work..

Oh, and get them to work 100% speed and not be bogged down by Wine..

oh thats right, you cant..
Either you're a moron, or you don't know how to read. I am saying that the process to get any game running in Linux is the same. Wether or not a game has poor performance is outside the scope of the comment.

If you re-read the earlier posts, you'd also see that I was refering to Ubuntu in respect to other distributions. Your post misled me to think you were singling out Ubuntu vs others.
Im the one who dont know how to read?

:icon19:

Your the idiot that though i was talking about your oh so important distro, when in fact im talking about linux in general..

Like i said ITS USELESS FOR GAMING..

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:54 pm
by PhoeniX
You do realise that the transgaming verison of wine is suited more for games, and that OpenGL should run at almost the same speed but DirectX is lacking because the engine has to convert the DirectX calls into OpenGL calls instead.

http://www.transgaming.com/

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:57 pm
by PhoeniX

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:14 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
SOAPboy wrote:
duffman91 wrote:
Deathshroud wrote: Perhaps he means getting Windows games to run in Linux?
Its the same process on all distributions of Linux.
K.. get steam to work..

get WoW to work.

Get Swat 4 To work..

Oh, and get them to work 100% speed and not be bogged down by Wine..

oh thats right, you cant..
not everyone spends their entire existance in front of a monitor playing games.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:14 pm
by SOAPboy
Once its to the point that i can put my disk in, install, and run the exe and be able to run the game in all its glory without being penalized for it do to shitty "emulation"

sorry.. linux is nice for SOME things but as a gaming OS.. ha.. no

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:25 pm
by PhoeniX
WINE IS NOT A FUCKING EMULATOR

Do you even know how it works/

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:27 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
PhoeniX wrote:WHINE IS NOT A FUCKING EMULATOR

Do you even know how it works/
he knows how THAT works.

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 4:55 pm
by SOAPboy
PhoeniX wrote:WINE IS NOT A FUCKING EMULATOR

Do you even know how it works/
i put '"s around Emulation because thats the best word i can come up with for it.. its not true emulation per say, but its close enough..

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:03 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
woudlent a Wrapper kind of suite it a little beter?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:05 pm
by SOAPboy
AmIdYfReAk wrote:woudlent a Wrapper kind of suite it a little beter?
:UP:

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:07 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
*toss's Soapboi a life raft*

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 5:54 pm
by PhoeniX
SOAPboy wrote:
PhoeniX wrote:WINE IS NOT A FUCKING EMULATOR

Do you even know how it works/
i put '"s around Emulation because thats the best word i can come up with for it.. its not true emulation per say, but its close enough..
Good. But with that analogy you could say any program which reads txt files emulate each other.

Just because Wine is capable of executing Windows code it does not emulate it per se.