Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:34 pm
http://www.magma.ca/~ocbc/Nightshade wrote:Where are you getting the impression that they're not that effective?
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:35 pm
thanks man - will look through these after my midterm.S@M wrote:oh, not what I recall from a public health seminar I attended, but here is one good quality ref, and a few web pages with different views
http://www.atsb.gov.au/road/pdf/cr195.pdf which includes teh following:_ The summary odds ratio estimate for efficacy is 0.40 (95% confidence interval 0.29, 0.55) for head injury, 0.42 (0.26, 0.67) for brain injury, 0.53 (0.39, 0.73) for facial injury and 0.27 (0.10, 0.71) for fatal injury. This indicates a statistically significant protective effect of helmets.
http://www.pcug.org.au/~psvansch/crag/efficacy.htm
for a contrary view, read http://agbu.une.edu.au/~drobinso/ozdoc.html
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:36 pm
In France only two kinds of snowboarders wear helmets: Brits who can't snowboard for shit, and Frenchies that are incredibly awesome.bitWISE wrote:The biggest sissies are the ones who wear a helmet while snowboarding.
In both cases i woulndn't call them sissies, as both stand a substantially higher chance of hurting themselves badly than the avarage boarder you'll see.
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:38 pm
Friend of mine when i was a like 8 or so, got hit by a car and was put in a wheelchair.. no helmet..bitWISE wrote:I wouldn't for a few reasons: look like a wimp, mess up your hair, uncomfurtable. The biggest sissies are the ones who wear a helmet while snowboarding.
I can only think of one person who has had a really bad bike accident in this county. I can't remember if she had a helmet or not but she was riding her bike and some how when she fell off the kickstand stabbed her in the fucking brain. Instatard.
Same guy hit me 2 weeks prior, no damage, just a few cuts.. Month or so before that he hit someone else..
Yeah i think hes in jail now.. lol
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:39 pm
I dont wear a helmet for normal bike riding. But im gonna get one for some 'off-the-road-cycling'.
I found out that i prefer that above the normal daily run i used to do. Yesterday i nearly slipped while going downhill, luckily i didnt fell, cause i would have smashed my head for sure. So i will use a helmet from now on while riding my mountainbike, but for the rest i say no to helmets.
does anyone has some advice for a reliable helmet?
I found out that i prefer that above the normal daily run i used to do. Yesterday i nearly slipped while going downhill, luckily i didnt fell, cause i would have smashed my head for sure. So i will use a helmet from now on while riding my mountainbike, but for the rest i say no to helmets.
does anyone has some advice for a reliable helmet?
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 2:40 pm
helmet for the average snowboarder imo should be worn full-time
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:21 pm
Serious bikers wear helmets all the time; you look like and idiot without one. The only people I ever see without them are 1) old people on cruisers, 2) little kids, 3) stupid gangbangers on their "bmx" bikes.bitWISE wrote:I wouldn't for a few reasons: look like a wimp, mess up your hair, uncomfurtable. The biggest sissies are the ones who wear a helmet while snowboarding.
I've seen two too many bikers get hit by cars (some just crossing the street at a stoplight) not to advise everyone to wear a helmet, good cyclist or not. I've even been saved by my own helmet more than once and wouldn't think about going anywhere without one. I don't know why anyone would think they're ineffective.
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:23 pm
i gtg get a bmx :grr:
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 3:30 pm
Yeah, but do you ride it like a bmx bike or do you just cruise the side walks with the seat down extra low because that's what all the other cool homies do?Billy Bellend wrote:i gtg get a bmx :grr:
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:55 pm
Ignorance is strength eh?bitWISE wrote:The biggest sissies are the ones who wear a helmet while snowboarding.
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 4:58 pm
:icon19:mik0rs wrote:Great fucking logic. I don't wear a bullet proof vest and I've never died of shotgun wounds either, not once.SOAPboy wrote:Never wore a helmet.. Never busted my head either..
So you cite 'messing up your hair' as a reason not to wear a helmet, then state that people who wear helmets are sissies?bitWISE wrote:I wouldn't for a few reasons: look like a wimp, mess up your hair, uncomfurtable. The biggest sissies are the ones who wear a helmet while snowboarding.
Fucking lol.
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:19 pm
MURRRRRRRRRR
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:20 pm
MURRRR
Edit: because I've not posted MURR before :icon14:
Edit: because I've not posted MURR before :icon14:
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:56 pm
i saw a guy on a bike get wiped out by a limo the other night.
i say get the helmet
i say get the helmet
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 5:59 pm
Even Duke would raise a glass to that...Nightshade wrote:Where are you getting the impression that they're not that effective? I have to say that when I was a kid, I never would have worn one, and luckily I never had a wreck that made me think otherwise.[xeno]Julios wrote:a lot of people say helmets are important, but do they actually know much about helmets? Apparently they're not that effective - full sized crash helmets are effective, but nobody would buy those.
Today I feel differently. They don't look half as stupid as they used to, and any protection is better than none. Better to look like a special needs child than to become one.
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:07 pm
and i think you're lying *lol*SOAPboy wrote:
Friend of mine when i was a like 8 or so, got hit by a car and was put in a wheelchair.. no helmet..
Same guy hit me 2 weeks prior, no damage, just a few cuts.. Month or so before that he hit someone else..
Yeah i think hes in jail now.. lol
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 6:08 pm
:lol: :lol:Foo wrote:So you cite 'messing up your hair' as a reason not to wear a helmet, then state that people who wear helmets are sissies?
Fucking lol.
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:19 pm
lance armstrong wears a helmet so you know they're cool.
oh and if you're doing a lot of biking i'd say get one. think about it this way...whenever you see a person riding their bike with a helmet on do you honestly thinkg to yourself, "boy that guy sure looks stupid wearing that helmet." chances are you don't and neither does anyone else--unless of course the helmet is worn incorrectly or not properly sized.
my uncle used to ride his bike all the time. someone driving wasn't paying attention and rear-ended him. he flew over the handlebars straight onto his head. luckily he was wearing a helmet and he just had a stiff neck and few cuts and scratches. the helmet however shattered into a lot of pieces so it obviously absorbed a lot of force that would have otherwise most likely severly injured my uncle or even kill him.
oh and if you're doing a lot of biking i'd say get one. think about it this way...whenever you see a person riding their bike with a helmet on do you honestly thinkg to yourself, "boy that guy sure looks stupid wearing that helmet." chances are you don't and neither does anyone else--unless of course the helmet is worn incorrectly or not properly sized.
my uncle used to ride his bike all the time. someone driving wasn't paying attention and rear-ended him. he flew over the handlebars straight onto his head. luckily he was wearing a helmet and he just had a stiff neck and few cuts and scratches. the helmet however shattered into a lot of pieces so it obviously absorbed a lot of force that would have otherwise most likely severly injured my uncle or even kill him.
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:23 pm
Well... in terms of protection yes they do protect. I however don't like them much, I wear em when I go riding hard or if I'm going to go racing but for a leisure ride to the store I don't bother.
Might want to look into getting a full faced helmet, they look like dirtbike helmets. Pretty cool.
Might want to look into getting a full faced helmet, they look like dirtbike helmets. Pretty cool.
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:45 pm
A cycling helmet has already saved me from serious injury.
I was hammering down a path and a tree was across it...so I bunny-hopped it. No problem.
The trouble is that was concentrating on the ground obstacle so much that I didn't see the low hanging branch. Right at the top of my jump I cranked the top of my head into it but I managed to make the landing.
My neck was fucked for weeks but at least I didn't leave my skull plate on the tree bark.
Plus I have a tendancy to bomb down steep stairs. :icon26:
BTW...replace your helmet if it's taken a hard knock.
I was hammering down a path and a tree was across it...so I bunny-hopped it. No problem.
The trouble is that was concentrating on the ground obstacle so much that I didn't see the low hanging branch. Right at the top of my jump I cranked the top of my head into it but I managed to make the landing.
My neck was fucked for weeks but at least I didn't leave my skull plate on the tree bark.
Plus I have a tendancy to bomb down steep stairs. :icon26:
BTW...replace your helmet if it's taken a hard knock.
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:50 pm
Here in Florida its a law for kids under 16 or 18 to wear helmets. I remember when it was passed I said, I aint going to make my kids wear one cause I never did. Well, My daughter crashed and burned, came down on the side of her head giving her bad road rash across the side of her face and ear and hair area, plus her hands and knees. I went out and bought them helmets and they wear them all the time now. And when scootering, skating or skateboarding. I however do not wear one when I roller blade just because I have been to lazy to go buy one. I recommend them.
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 7:51 pm
Another testament to helmet use is a friend of mine.
About 10 years ago he borrowed my bike to ride to work. I saw my bike on the six o'clock news...it was bent to shit and trashed. Then the phone rang.
He was hit by a driver who simply didn't see him. Ray's head went through the windsheild as he flipped across the hood. His skull plate was pushed into his brain and they had to drill. His head was the size of a basketball.
Luckily he survived and blazed through rehab like a champ...but he's deaf in his right ear and his vision and balance are a bit fucked.
A helmet probably would have helped in his case...so better safe than sorry. Only vain fagg0ts who look in mirrors more often than women don't wear helmets.
About 10 years ago he borrowed my bike to ride to work. I saw my bike on the six o'clock news...it was bent to shit and trashed. Then the phone rang.
He was hit by a driver who simply didn't see him. Ray's head went through the windsheild as he flipped across the hood. His skull plate was pushed into his brain and they had to drill. His head was the size of a basketball.
Luckily he survived and blazed through rehab like a champ...but he's deaf in his right ear and his vision and balance are a bit fucked.
A helmet probably would have helped in his case...so better safe than sorry. Only vain fagg0ts who look in mirrors more often than women don't wear helmets.
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:00 pm
i dont didnt wear one simply because it made me look like a twat, i had a few nasty accidents but i got through them 
the only time i wish i had one was when i was going down my street and some lil shit threw a house brick at my head, i came off but he went back to his dad with a black eye
if i go through the forests or go tearing around now i might buy one just for that but if im just cycling to work or someshit i wouldnt even look at it
but at the end of the day its upto you... i mean if you go round biking a lot or if your area is like a kill zone for cyclists then its best to have one
the only time i wish i had one was when i was going down my street and some lil shit threw a house brick at my head, i came off but he went back to his dad with a black eyeif i go through the forests or go tearing around now i might buy one just for that but if im just cycling to work or someshit i wouldnt even look at it
but at the end of the day its upto you... i mean if you go round biking a lot or if your area is like a kill zone for cyclists then its best to have one
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:01 pm
Truth.. Was when i lived in las vegas.. he got hit going to school, i got hit going to a card shop to buy baseball cards..+JuggerNaut+ wrote:and i think you're lying *lol*SOAPboy wrote:
Friend of mine when i was a like 8 or so, got hit by a car and was put in a wheelchair.. no helmet..
Same guy hit me 2 weeks prior, no damage, just a few cuts.. Month or so before that he hit someone else..
Yeah i think hes in jail now.. lol
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:04 pm
GONNAFISTYA wrote:Only vain fagg0ts who look in mirrors more often than women don't wear helmets.