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tnf wrote:Who was he? Any other users that posted from his IP?

Was using a proxy, so no idea.

We got interserverd, fair and square.

gg JasonBiggs

Fact: I've deployed SP2 to over 1000 machines with no issues client side.. the only thing that went wrong was the SMS server couldn't handle all those machines clobbering it at once for a massive update download.

Unless he was trying some buffer overload combined with malicious JPEG, his posts did nothing more than bring your machines to a crawl trying to load a 800*600 image resized to something like 9 million * 9 million with height and width tags.

No crashing here, so I could care less...

Well, you were using a mac and thus special

it did make the little scrolly bars turn into paper thin slits

Canis wrote:No crashing here, so I could care less...

Since we already have a thread about common errors in the use of the English language, I guess I will refrain from pointing out that it's "couldn't care less."

Dave wrote:Fact: I've deployed SP2 to over 1000 machines with no issues client side.. the only thing that went wrong was the SMS server couldn't handle all those machines clobbering it at once for a massive update download.

Unless he was trying some buffer overload combined with malicious JPEG, his posts did nothing more than bring your machines to a crawl trying to load a 800*600 image resized to something like 9 million * 9 million with height and width tags.

Yea I was guessing it had to be some uber-large image bullshit. Was surprised that it caused my laptop's ATI to get an infinite loop error.

tnf wrote:

Canis wrote:No crashing here, so I could care less...

Since we already have a thread about common errors in the use of the English language, I guess I will refrain from pointing out that it's "couldn't care less."

But then again, I could have both "could" and "couldn't" have cared less. Both are grammatically correct, but they mean different things. I guess I just haven't prevented myself from having a complete lack of care...

Dave wrote:Well, you were using a mac and thus special

I owned the fuck out of this malicious looser and I don't own a mac because Im a real man.

tnf wrote:I'm currently in a battle with the IT guy at work because I refuse to install SP2 on my work laptop until after the year is over because I don't want to take a chance on my work laptop getting hosed and having to go through the hassle of restoring all my grades, etc.
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your IT guy has no balls.

We just do it without our users' permission... At most they get an email heads-up on the day we do it

hey this thread is kind of like a forum party a bit

hey this thread is kind of like a forum party a bit :icon11:

Dave wrote:We just do it without our users' permission... At most they get an email heads-up on the day we do it

exactly.

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:

tnf wrote:I'm currently in a battle with the IT guy at work because I refuse to install SP2 on my work laptop until after the year is over because I don't want to take a chance on my work laptop getting hosed and having to go through the hassle of restoring all my grades, etc.
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your IT guy has no balls.

Why, because he can't physically take my laptop from me and make me let him install it?

I've got no real problem with SP2, but I've known 3 people personally (and heard stories here) who have had the installation completely bone their system. I've got shit backed up, but at this point (close to the end of the schoolyear), I'd just stick with what I've got and now have to worry about any potential issues - no matter how small the risk.

He doesn't need balls, btw, for the most part, becuase the building is full of people who rely on him to connect their computers to a TV for s-video output...that keeps him busy enough.

Dave wrote:We just do it without our users' permission... At most they get an email heads-up on the day we do it

Same here. Updates are automatically pushed out and they get a five minute notice if a reboot is needed.

But is it really so hard to believe that it does hose the occasionaly system? I know from personal experience that it can on a fresh install.

scourge34 wrote:But is it really so hard to believe that it does hose the occasionaly system? I know from personal experience that it can on a fresh install.

I've heard of it and its usually due to a driver issue when that happens. Its not too common either.

I've done SP2 about 50 times on various systems and only had a problem once which was resolved fast because it was only a bad driver. I think it could be human error that's causing the problems? People not checking what SP2 supports, etc.

If you are that scared make a backup of your system, there is a few ways you can do that. SP2 is not only faster with modern software it's also much more secure and stable, at least from my experience.

inphlict wrote:I've done SP2 about 50 times on various systems and only had a problem once which was resolved fast because it was only a bad driver. I think it could be human error that's causing the problems? People not checking what SP2 supports, etc.

If you are that scared make a backup of your system, there is a few ways you can do that. SP2 is not only faster with modern software it's also much more secure and stable, at least from my experience.

I'm not scared and I know about backing the system up. I just haven't alloted myself the time to mess with it in case it does hose it again.

Bottom line - I owned this thread.

tnf wrote:

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:

tnf wrote:I'm currently in a battle with the IT guy at work because I refuse to install SP2 on my work laptop until after the year is over because I don't want to take a chance on my work laptop getting hosed and having to go through the hassle of restoring all my grades, etc.
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your IT guy has no balls.

Why, because he can't physically take my laptop from me and make me let him install it?

I've got no real problem with SP2, but I've known 3 people personally (and heard stories here) who have had the installation completely bone their system. I've got shit backed up, but at this point (close to the end of the schoolyear), I'd just stick with what I've got and now have to worry about any potential issues - no matter how small the risk.

He doesn't need balls, btw, for the most part, becuase the building is full of people who rely on him to connect their computers to a TV for s-video output...that keeps him busy enough.

if it's the school's laptop, which i'm assuming, and you connect to their network when they've rolled out SP2 on everything else, this renders you a security risk. plain and simple.

basically it sounds like you don't have much of an IT dept. understandable, but a shame for schools.

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:

tnf wrote:

+JuggerNaut+ wrote: your IT guy has no balls.

Why, because he can't physically take my laptop from me and make me let him install it?

I've got no real problem with SP2, but I've known 3 people personally (and heard stories here) who have had the installation completely bone their system. I've got shit backed up, but at this point (close to the end of the schoolyear), I'd just stick with what I've got and now have to worry about any potential issues - no matter how small the risk.

He doesn't need balls, btw, for the most part, becuase the building is full of people who rely on him to connect their computers to a TV for s-video output...that keeps him busy enough.

if it's the school's laptop, which i'm assuming, and you connect to their network when they've rolled out SP2 on everything else, this renders you a security risk. plain and simple.

basically it sounds like you don't have much of an IT dept. understandable, but a shame for schools.

Christ Jug, I've hit a sensitive spot with you here.

Couple things:
A) I'm aware that I would pose a security risk, but I don't access the schools network with my laptop because I don't use any of the shared resources. I do my email through their web access, and use a desktop in my room for everything else. The laptop is simply my personal work machine that I do all my grading and lesson planning on. I've got too much shit on it right now to want to risk the miniscule chance that SP1 will bone it.

B) No, we don't have much of an IT department. We have people that didn't use a computer until their 40's, and then dropped the lline of work they had done for most of their lives and got their MCSE at an extended learning place. Most don't know what UNIX iis. In fact, one of them actually asked me what Linux was when I told him I was going to set up a dual boot on my tablet and asked him if he knew if Linux even had support for tablets yet.

C) They didn't roll SP2 out. They actually had every user download it from the share drive and install it.

D) Don't ask me why in regards to C.

E) Probably the same reason they won't use a ghosting program to rebuild machines.

F) I'll install SP2 when I'm damn good and ready, and I am more conscious about network security at work than anyone else in the building. (I'm constantly giving people shit for leaving themselves logged into common computers...their email, etc., all wide open...passwords on sticky notes stuck to monitors). Not to mention the asshats who do shit like use network printers as their personal copy machines, firing off 150 copies of a worksheet instead of 1 and having it copied.

tnf wrote:

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:

tnf wrote: Why, because he can't physically take my laptop from me and make me let him install it?

I've got no real problem with SP2, but I've known 3 people personally (and heard stories here) who have had the installation completely bone their system. I've got shit backed up, but at this point (close to the end of the schoolyear), I'd just stick with what I've got and now have to worry about any potential issues - no matter how small the risk.

He doesn't need balls, btw, for the most part, becuase the building is full of people who rely on him to connect their computers to a TV for s-video output...that keeps him busy enough.

if it's the school's laptop, which i'm assuming, and you connect to their network when they've rolled out SP2 on everything else, this renders you a security risk. plain and simple.

basically it sounds like you don't have much of an IT dept. understandable, but a shame for schools.

Christ Jug, I've hit a sensitive spot with you here.

Couple things:
A) I'm aware that I would pose a security risk, but I don't access the schools network with my laptop because I don't use any of the shared resources. I do my email through their web access, and use a desktop in my room for everything else. The laptop is simply my personal work machine that I do all my grading and lesson planning on. I've got too much shit on it right now to want to risk the miniscule chance that SP1 will bone it.

B) No, we don't have much of an IT department. We have people that didn't use a computer until their 40's, and then dropped the lline of work they had done for most of their lives and got their MCSE at an extended learning place. Most don't know what UNIX iis. In fact, one of them actually asked me what Linux was when I told him I was going to set up a dual boot on my tablet and asked him if he knew if Linux even had support for tablets yet.

C) They didn't roll SP2 out. They actually had every user download it from the share drive and install it.

D) Don't ask me why in regards to C.

E) Probably the same reason they won't use a ghosting program to rebuild machines.

F) I'll install SP2 when I'm damn good and ready, and I am more conscious about network security at work than anyone else in the building. (I'm constantly giving people shit for leaving themselves logged into common computers...their email, etc., all wide open...passwords on sticky notes stuck to monitors). Not to mention the asshats who do shit like use network printers as their personal copy machines, firing off 150 copies of a worksheet instead of 1 and having it copied.

that's exactly what i was hoping you'd come back with.