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obsidian wrote:Neither of these guys have been relevant in the industry for over a decade. I'm not expecting a lot from them.

What if they saw that DOOM (2016) beta is a flop and decided to use this opportunity to fill a niche?

I mean, they've probably known about this for a while.

I love this video!

ToxicBug wrote:

obsidian wrote:Neither of these guys have been relevant in the industry for over a decade. I'm not expecting a lot from them.

What if they saw that DOOM (2016) beta is a flop and decided to use this opportunity to fill a niche?

I mean, they've probably known about this for a while.

It would be glorious if so and if they'd succeed. And why couldn't it? Serious Sam (the first and second encounter games) managed to successfully emulate part of the Doom gameplay in 2001.

Mat Linnett wrote:I too was confused as to why they'd shot that in Ireland at first, but apparently that's where the office for this new game is based.

i'm sure not for tax purposes though

not sure though

seremtan wrote:

Mat Linnett wrote:I too was confused as to why they'd shot that in Ireland at first, but apparently that's where the office for this new game is based.

i'm sure not for tax purposes though

not sure though

Adrian Carmack also owns a resort in Ireland.

Eraser wrote:

losCHUNK wrote:
Aye apparently Romero was in absolute beast mode on Doom, a lot of that games artist style seems to be to his credit.

Adrian Carmack was mostly responsible for the artwork (textures). Romero did level design and had a big hand in gameplay.

For some reason I thought AC had a lot of input but Romero was the driving force, he was meant to be technical engineer with JC but ended up doing the artwork ? (on top of level design and gameplay). I do remember it being commented on though that Romero put the most work in on Doom. I thought I remember AC having a lot of input in Quake as Romero took a step back instead.

What you say makes sense though

Memphis wrote:

obsidian wrote:Neither of these guys have been relevant in the industry

Is anyone anymore though? Most of the few brand-name devs left are Japanese.

Point is, the two of them aren't exactly going to draw triple-A budgets from anyone, which means they'll probably have to do this indie style. This means limited budget and limited staff. That's all good and well, lots of people do indie games and are sometimes (realistically, we can say 'rarely') they'll manage to actually finish their project. Then maybe if they have the exact right formula, they'll actually have a hit.

That's a whole lot of maybes coming from a guy who is known to have mismanaged sacks full of cash and made a bunch of flops, and another guy who hasn't even been a part of the industry for a couple of decades. Don't get me wrong, if they end up being successful, I'll certainly be happy for them and be glad to drop some cash. I just don't think the two of them are suited to lead a development project unless they miraculously have a killer team supporting them, which probably isn't going to happen due to a lack of budget.

obsidian wrote:Point is, the two of them aren't exactly going to draw triple-A budgets from anyone, which means they'll probably have to do this indie style. This means limited budget and limited staff. That's all good and well, lots of people do indie games and are sometimes (realistically, we can say 'rarely') they'll manage to actually finish their project. Then maybe if they have the exact right formula, they'll actually have a hit.

That's a whole lot of maybes coming from a guy who is known to have mismanaged sacks full of cash and made a bunch of flops, and another guy who hasn't even been a part of the industry for a couple of decades. Don't get me wrong, if they end up being successful, I'll certainly be happy for them and be glad to drop some cash. I just don't think the two of them are suited to lead a development project unless they miraculously have a killer team supporting them, which probably isn't going to happen due to a lack of budget.

You talk sense.
I wonder how Cliffy B did it with Boss Key Productions though. LawBreakers looks decidedly triple-A quality.

edit:
looks like he got a publishing deal through Nexon, an Asian games publisher.
Maybe Romero and Carmack are doing something similar?

seremtan wrote:lol, they flew all the way to Scotland for a SWFA reference :/

... and haggis, maybe

Eraser wrote:

obsidian wrote:Point is, the two of them aren't exactly going to draw triple-A budgets from anyone, which means they'll probably have to do this indie style. This means limited budget and limited staff. That's all good and well, lots of people do indie games and are sometimes (realistically, we can say 'rarely') they'll manage to actually finish their project. Then maybe if they have the exact right formula, they'll actually have a hit.

That's a whole lot of maybes coming from a guy who is known to have mismanaged sacks full of cash and made a bunch of flops, and another guy who hasn't even been a part of the industry for a couple of decades. Don't get me wrong, if they end up being successful, I'll certainly be happy for them and be glad to drop some cash. I just don't think the two of them are suited to lead a development project unless they miraculously have a killer team supporting them, which probably isn't going to happen due to a lack of budget.

You talk sense.
I wonder how Cliffy B did it with Boss Key Productions though. LawBreakers looks decidedly triple-A quality.

edit:
looks like he got a publishing deal through Nexon, an Asian games publisher.
Maybe Romero and Carmack are doing something similar?

Could maybe go the kickstarter road ?. It is good to see them still trying though, if they can pull 1 more hit out their collective arse then they're laughing.

losCHUNK wrote:Could maybe go the kickstarter road ?. It is good to see them still trying though, if they can pull 1 more hit out their collective arse then they're laughing.

Seriously, it doesn't hurt that a Doom founder decided to make a "classic" FPS

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ni ... nd-carmack

I'd be more inclined to buy into this if they had some gameplay footage, and a release date that doesn't threaten to get delayed into 2019...

Hmmm, not convinced just yet.

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/04/25/blac ... ohn-romero

Yeah not having any idea of how it's going to look isn't good

Is anyone backing them on Kickstarter? I pledged as Hoxar Gamer for $29 USD.

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I don't preorder games anymore.

The whole "holographic room to show different environments" sounds too much like Daikatana's time travelling idea.

Transient wrote:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nightworkgames/blackroom-a-new-fps-from-romero-and-carmack

I'd be more inclined to buy into this if they had some gameplay footage, and a release date that doesn't threaten to get delayed into 2019...

Yea, this. I expect they'll need a bigger budget than 700k n all, so expect more crowd funding in the future imo.

I really do hope it works though. Hopefully they stick with it, creating tech demos and videos and garner more crowdfunding in the long haul like Star Citizen has done. Then JC takes note, returns and takes over Zenimax by publicly fucking the CEO to death.

http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2016/04/29/blac ... -cancelled

Cancelled

http://www.develop-online.net/news/rome ... mo/0219823

Bit more info - ill timed. They are going to release a demo/game play footage and then hit the kickstarter again

The "cancelled" automated Kickstarter email startled me this morning. All that Kotaku could come up with is a linkbait title, fuck that site.

It's gawker. What do you expect?

Romero Kickstarts New Game - You'll Never Guess What Happened Next