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Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:49 am
by Eraser
lol @ calling Ballmer a douche and citing Jobs as a shining example.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:10 pm
by Tsakali
/fanboy added to my records.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:40 pm
by Don Carlos
But he's right....Jobs wasn't squeaky clean dude

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:08 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Steve Jobs was a crazy person.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:43 pm
by Tsakali
Don Carlos wrote:But he's right....Jobs wasn't squeaky clean dude
I meant unisaw

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:51 pm
by Don Carlos
Noted

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:45 pm
by Unisaw
I agree 100% but... Jobs was - for the last 15 years - a brilliant and charismatic retailer. His obsessive/compulsive devotion to form (the inside of the PC must be perfect even tho you can't open the case) made the company. His appearance at events was spell-binding to Apple fans. I agree he was a fruitcake but when Ballmer takes the stage and announces a product that won't be produced for 6 more months +/- it pales in comparison.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:39 pm
by Big Kahuna Burger
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSj8GUZDuac

At least Microsoft and Google are realizing that Jobs was right and doing your own hardware and software make a better product. That's why MS is making Surface, Google is doing a Nexus tablet, Google bought Motorola, and why MS will buy Nokia this year.

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:47 am
by Eraser
Unisaw wrote: I agree he was a fruitcake but when Ballmer takes the stage and announces a product that won't be produced for 6 more months +/- it pales in comparison.
Sorry, but Ballmer is quite charismatic even though he may seem a tad odd. You can't deny that the man is a manifestation of enthusiasm. Also, the Surface tablets are scheduled to be on sale in the fall of this year, which could be as soon as 3 months from now. Last but not least, saying that the surface tablets pale in comparison [to the iPad] reeks of fanboyism. Explain to me why a faster and lighter tablet that runs an OS that will share its apps with the desktop equivalent of the OS, comes with a snap-on keyboard, has a bigger screen, has USB port and has a micro SD ports (and without a doubt a HDMI output as well) is inferior to the iPad? Oh and it's not just inferior, no it "pales in comparison".

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 2:44 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
Big Kahuna Burger wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSj8GUZDuac

At least Microsoft and Google are realizing that Jobs was right and doing your own hardware and software make a better product. That's why MS is making Surface, Google is doing a Nexus tablet, Google bought Motorola, and why MS will buy Nokia this year.
Ars Technica agrees with you.
If you want something done properly, as the old adage goes, you have to do it yourself.

For the longest time, the failure to produce a good, usable Windows tablet was twofold. Microsoft lacked an operating system usable with finger input, and the PC OEMs failed to produce devices that were thin enough and light enough to be comfortable when handheld.

The first problem is, to a greater or lesser extent, addressed by Windows 8 and its ARM counterpart, Windows RT. But the software is nothing without the hardware to run it on.

PC hardware is plagued with mediocrity, but to a large extent it can get away with it. The simple fact is, the PC is an entrenched, dominant tool. It doesn't have to wow anyone or win them over, because it already has.

Tablets are different. The market is still new, the exact limits and roles that the form factor can fill are still being determined, and only one company has achieved any real tablet success with a tightly integrated package of software and custom-designed hardware.
Microsoft Surface: a gentle kick in the teeth of the OEMs

Re: Next X-Box specs and price leaked

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 4:06 pm
by Tsakali
As much as I applaud freedom of choice I gotta agree that having the android system run on 50+ different devices is a fucking developing nightmare, and at the end both the developer and the consumer suffer. I don't really have much experience with that type of development but I've looked into it enough to know that I would much rather develop for the iphone.

And if you're gonna be serious about performance and controlling the runtime environment , you really don't want to dump your project on something like unity (which allows you to develop of multiple platforms) , cause that middle layer ends up compromising the end result.