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Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 2:36 am
by bitWISE
Psyche911 wrote:lol

I've never had a problem with my Wells Fargo credit card. Is that a good thing though? :paranoid:
I guess it is nice to see that it's well protected. Still annoying though.

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:48 am
by ajerara
I have the Thermaltake Silent Boost, it is very quiet, should be fine if you are not OC'ing. I do have a bit of an OC going, I know if i had a better heatsink I'd have better temps on the OC, but without any overclocking they were fine.

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 5:34 am
by stocktroll
cut down on the ram if you aint gonna be doing hardcore OC'ing
a corsair value pack is like over $120 cheaper

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:11 am
by Psyche911
stocktroll wrote:cut down on the ram if you aint gonna be doing hardcore OC'ing
a corsair value pack is like over $120 cheaper
Or don't.
I believe all the "value" ram has timings of 2.5-3-3-7 or higher (3-4-4-8 for some, ugh). The Athlon 64 platform is extremely sensitive to latencies. If you can do it, 2-2-2-5 timings are certainly worth the price premium.

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 6:14 am
by SOAPboy
Psyche911 wrote:
stocktroll wrote:cut down on the ram if you aint gonna be doing hardcore OC'ing
a corsair value pack is like over $120 cheaper
Or don't.
I believe all the "value" ram has timings of 2.5-3-3-7 or higher (3-4-4-8 for some, ugh). The Athlon 64 platform is extremely sensitive to latencies. If you can do it, 2-2-2-5 timings are certainly worth the price premium.
Agreed, Value ram = shit

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 2:35 pm
by Deathshroud
riddla wrote:yes, because your very limited experience is indicative of the entire name brand.

MSI are great. I dont say this because I built *one* and had minor issues with it either. I've built hundreds of PCs and MSI is easily top 3 for quality and stability.

WoW has already rotted your brain.
My opinion exactly. I used to work at a PC shop and our choice mobo's were MSI's. Not sure what you did to get yours to run like crap.

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 2:49 pm
by Freakaloin
msi boards suck balls...

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:06 pm
by bitWISE
stocktroll wrote:cut down on the ram if you aint gonna be doing hardcore OC'ing
a corsair value pack is like over $120 cheaper
I will never buy any less than Corsair XMS again. I'm currently using 512mb of PC2700 and my PC is always responsive and has only crashed once in almost a year (and that was do to a POS program).

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:11 pm
by stocktroll
uh no,
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6820145440
ive fooled around $300 top of the line ram sticks before and i see no justification for the price premium unless you really want to burn money for very little to no noticeable performance increase

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:11 pm
by DiscoDave
Freakaloin wrote:msi boards suck balls...
Shows how much you know...

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:17 pm
by stocktroll
bitWISE wrote:
stocktroll wrote:cut down on the ram if you aint gonna be doing hardcore OC'ing
a corsair value pack is like over $120 cheaper
I will never buy any less than Corsair XMS again. I'm currently using 512mb of PC2700 and my PC is always responsive and has only crashed once in almost a year (and that was do to a POS program).
ok your choice dude

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:23 pm
by bitWISE
stocktroll wrote:uh no,
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... 6820145440
ive fooled around $300 top of the line ram sticks before and i see no justification for the price premium unless you really want to burn money for very little to no noticeable performance increase
Wow I can save $27 by getting memory that hasn't been fully tested. I actually do overclock my RAM since it only requires BIOS tweaks. The only reason I don't overclock my CPU is because I don't want to unlock it.

After reading a review I understand what you are saying...I'm just being "brand loyal."

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 3:35 pm
by bitWISE
yay its been sorted finally. and the xp-90 fan is already on its way.

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 8:46 pm
by Psyche911
This may be a stupid question, but you know the XP-90 doesn't come with a fan, right? :)

I have a San Ace 92mm, it's a little loud though. People get very impressive results with the Vantec Stealth 92mm fans (very quiet, and you will really only sacrifice a few degrees over a tornado which is totally unbearable).

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 10:03 pm
by SOAPboy
Deathshroud wrote:
riddla wrote:yes, because your very limited experience is indicative of the entire name brand.

MSI are great. I dont say this because I built *one* and had minor issues with it either. I've built hundreds of PCs and MSI is easily top 3 for quality and stability.

WoW has already rotted your brain.
My opinion exactly. I used to work at a PC shop and our choice mobo's were MSI's. Not sure what you did to get yours to run like crap.
Newegg..

GG!

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 10:20 pm
by Psyche911
What does Newegg have to do with it?
Did they sabotage your board? :icon22:

Or did you think he asked where you got it?

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 10:21 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
i've allways been a MSI fan, but they kind of hit a rut when they started loading there board's up with shit.. now ESPECALLY with the Neo Series they are king.

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 10:43 pm
by SOAPboy
Psyche911 wrote:What does Newegg have to do with it?
Did they sabotage your board? :icon22:

Or did you think he asked where you got it?
he said he wasent sure where i was getting them, i told him where.. stfu

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 10:48 pm
by Psyche911
SOAPboy wrote:
Psyche911 wrote:What does Newegg have to do with it?
Did they sabotage your board? :icon22:

Or did you think he asked where you got it?
he said he wasent sure where i was getting them, i told him where.. stfu

Christ SOAP. Not only did you misread it the first time. After I posted that, you posted that follow-up post to me while still not having read his original post right.

Read this again:
Deathshroud wrote:Not sure what you did to get yours to run like crap.

"Not sure what you did to get yours to run like crap."

Not "Not sure where you got your crap."


P.S. stfu yourself :p

Posted: Mon May 02, 2005 11:18 pm
by SOAPboy
Stfu

Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 2:12 am
by bitWISE
Psyche911 wrote:This may be a stupid question, but you know the XP-90 doesn't come with a fan, right? :)
I do now...

Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 3:42 am
by Psyche911
Do you have a Frys nearby by any chance? They cary the Stealth line of fans (and lots others, but Stealth are good performance for the noise).

Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 4:05 am
by Bdw3
bitWISE wrote:
stocktroll wrote:cut down on the ram if you aint gonna be doing hardcore OC'ing
a corsair value pack is like over $120 cheaper
I will never buy any less than Corsair XMS again. I'm currently using 512mb of PC2700 and my PC is always responsive and has only crashed once in almost a year (and that was do to a POS program).
It's all the same Samsung RAM. :icon14:

Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 4:43 am
by bitWISE
Estimated delivery date: May 5, 2005 by 4:30 pm
Psyche911 wrote:Do you have a Frys nearby by any chance? They cary the Stealth line of fans (and lots others, but Stealth are good performance for the noise).
That page says "Thermalright Fan (INCLUDED)"...Will that be ok to get things running? (No Frys but I can just order one)

Posted: Tue May 03, 2005 5:13 pm
by Tormentius
SOAPboy wrote:Stfu
Yeah, thats a much better response than looking up some reliable information to back your claim. If MSI makes such shit boards said info should be easy to find.