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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 12:30 am
by Fender
got the error as well

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:51 am
by urgrund777
that test could be considered humourously racist itself... odd how "failure" "horrible" was on the right side, same as all the blacks.... and "success" "wonderful" was on the left side along with all the whites ;)

...how friggin' long does it go for? I started mashing E and I to hurry it up then quit!

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:15 am
by Guest
"Your data suggest a slight automatic preference for Black People relative to White People"

ROFL, I just responded faster to black - bad :paranoid:

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 2:16 am
by 4g3nt_Smith
urgrund777 wrote:that test could be considered humourously racist itself... odd how "failure" "horrible" was on the right side, same as all the blacks.... and "success" "wonderful" was on the left side along with all the whites ;)

...how friggin' long does it go for? I started mashing E and I to hurry it up then quit!
They mix it up at then end.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:25 am
by losCHUNK
well that is weird to say the least

but im slighly favourable of white poeple... meh

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 3:51 am
by Freakaloin
i don't need a test to tell me what i already know...

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:26 am
by Chupacabra
what do you know?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:28 am
by Freakaloin
i hate all u motherfuckers...

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:11 am
by MrSparkle
Freakaloin wrote:i hate all u motherfuckers...
Shut it Guido.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:11 am
by mjrpes
The test said I had a slight automatic preference for white people over black, and that I leave funky town immediately.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:13 am
by MrSparkle
mjrpes wrote:The test said I had a slight automatic preference for white people over black, and that I leave funky town immediately.
You had me at hello.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:19 am
by [xeno]Julios
the IAT is actually a decent test of race bias.

most people are actually racist on some level, but this is in some ways unavoidable given the social environment within which we live.

It's more of a systemic thing.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:48 am
by MKJ
this is such a load of crap :icon19:

they couldve used apples and oranges instead of black n white.
what they do is, they create a temporary force of habit on you - left is good, right is bad - and then they turn it around on you. it has nothing to do with the picture or word they show you, just how fast you adjust to their game :dork:

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:34 am
by Nightshade
I fail to see how accidentally pressing the incorrect button a few times trying to associate words means that I have a slight preference for whites over blacks. I didn't make any errors when associating faces, just words, and that was only due to the 'Good' and 'Bad' being on different sides.
Odd test.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:16 pm
by denzii
I have a moderate preferece to white over black.

I got so used to have the answers on one side that it was hard to change it.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 1:21 pm
by Ryoki
MKJ wrote:this is such a load of crap :icon19:

they couldve used apples and oranges instead of black n white.
what they do is, they create a temporary force of habit on you - left is good, right is bad - and then they turn it around on you. it has nothing to do with the picture or word they show you, just how fast you adjust to their game :dork:
Yep.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:41 pm
by Tormentius
MrSparkle wrote:Says I hate N!GGERS, CH!NKS, SPICS, and KIKES.
Didn't you get banned for this once already?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 8:00 pm
by [xeno]Julios
MKJ wrote:this is such a load of crap :icon19:

they couldve used apples and oranges instead of black n white.
what they do is, they create a temporary force of habit on you - left is good, right is bad - and then they turn it around on you. it has nothing to do with the picture or word they show you, just how fast you adjust to their game :dork:
that concern came up in class, and the prof said that the results still showed bias even when you are conditioned the other way first.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:32 pm
by Hannibal
There was some talk within social psychology that these 'preferences' (operationalized through simple perceptual/recognition tasks) may be 'hard-wired' to a degree...a slight 'in-group...out-group' bias that affects the way information is processed, stored, and accessed. The idea being that this 'bias' is a universal feature of the way humans cognitively develop.

Since I left the study of psychology some time ago, I have no idea if this line of research went anywhere, or was debunked, or was consumed in a cloud of explosive gayness.

Calling this feature 'racist', if it exists, is a little over the top, but its implications for understanding racist tendencies and behavior is obvious.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 10:37 pm
by [xeno]Julios
the point that's important to take away is that we have these implicit biases, based on our cultural environment, that we are largely unaware of.

And these biases do have an effect of systemically oppressing minorities who are on the short end of this bias.

For an interesting look at one insidious form of racism, check out Claude Steele's "Threat in the Air"

http://www.nber.org/~sewp/events/2005.0 ... he-Air.pdf

I made a summary of the theory behind the experiments, if you don't wanna read the whole intro.

http://individual.utoronto.ca/mdaar/steele1.doc

The results from the experiments are shocking btw.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:12 am
by urgrund777
Why do you prefer an Apple over an Organge - are you 'fruitist'?
Why do you prefer rugging up at winter as oppossed to swimming at summer? Are you seasonist? Why do you prefer jazz instead of deathmetal? Are you genre'ist? ...etc ...etc ..etc ....racism is just another one of these questions in my opinion, and having preference is a natural, healthy part of life.

So long idiots don't start wars... or squash the Orange beause they like Apples more, or burn (not CDR burn :P ) the Jazz CD because they like Metal more - then there is nothing wrong with prefering to associate with a race more than another.... O_o

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 12:45 am
by Hannibal
urgrund777 wrote:
Why do you prefer an Apple over an Organge - are you 'fruitist'?
....racism is just another one of these questions in my opinion, and having preference is a natural, healthy part of life.
The point at issue is not whether some preferences are harmless or amoral, but whether the ones based on 'race', ethnicity, nationality are benign and/or value neutral.

This is far more complicated and morally loaded than a simple taste preference. Ask a white supremacist why he prefers white folks....believe me, he's won't shrug his shoulders, look wistfully up at the sky and mumble "just because". He'll give you a whole list of reasons (that he sincerely takes as relevant)...some of these reasons may even be held by relatively sane folks in the larger culture (to some degree or other). Whether any of these reasons ARE legitimate is of course what studies in race relations have been concerned with since the get go.

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2005 4:16 am
by ajerara
it says I don't seem to prefer white or black. I guess I fall under the " doesn't give a shit" category.