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Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:14 pm
by phantasmagoria
Just leave the earth wire bare, or you could cut it off flush with the outer insulation to make it neater for when you conceal it in the ceiling. As long as your light fitting and bulb have no metallic parts (apart from the contacts in your bulb) you'll be fine.
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:19 pm
by phantasmagoria
Scarface wrote:Tsakali wrote:220
ouch
I highly doubt his ceiling fan is 240.
all household is ~230 in the UK
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 11:59 pm
by SoM
lick your fingers and touch the live wire

Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:08 am
by Nightshade
Scarface wrote:Nightshade wrote:The earth wire only serves as a safety return path in case of fault currents. In normal single-phase household AC wiring, the line and neutral wires are the primary "supply" and "return" wires. You want to have it connected to a solid earth point, but if you don't have one available there, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Let your electrician properly earth it when he comes back.

you a sparky as well?
10 years as an electronics tech, now I'm an electrical engineer.
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:03 am
by YourGrandpa
I say read the instructions. Only a fucking retard would have trouble installing a light fixture.
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:46 am
by Whiskey 7
Fender wrote:Ask Mazda's dad, he's familiar with being grounded.
I am just typing heaps of text about my electrocution back in 1982 
Nearly ready to start a new topic . Watch for it.
Good read coming up soon .....
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:55 am
by FragaGeddon
Tsakali wrote:or even the light switch in the room
You can still have power going to the light.
Just because you turn off the switch, the power could go to the light first, then to the switch, then back to the panel.
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:19 pm
by Underpants?
the company is opening a UK datacenter, and I've had to learn some electricity basics for getting the correct hardware... this is a good thread, thanks Drum.
First thing I learned is that the Amsterdam facilities jealously guard power consumption per rack, so rack space is at a bare minimum.
Do I understand incorrectly that UK current is not only more efficient, but it's safer? Does anyone have a technical whitepaper in mind?
so--if we're pulling a constant 16 A in UK, you're over the allotted usage and get bent over and fisted. or fined, i can't remember.
there's some kind of a simple calculation (is it wattsxamps) to calculate overall load in Kva or something.
Also, you guys saying 220 ouch-- in the US, we have lower voltage, but higher amperage (which, correct me if i'm wrong NS, is considered deadlier?)--so I don't know if accidentally contacting a couple of bare wires with the finger is necessarily all that dangerous to a normal, healthy person?
P.S. MKJ, Ryo, Eraser, and Saturn, I hope to be coming your way and expect a massive hashing, beering, needle-sharing-and-unprotected-hookering good time after the New Year. Well, maybe all that except for the hash, needle sharing and hookers.
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 4:26 pm
by LawL
YourGrandpa wrote:I say read the instructions. Only a fucking retard would have trouble installing a light fixture.
No one gives a shit what you say, faggot.
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:54 pm
by Doombrain
oh burn
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:59 pm
by bork[e]
YourGrandpa wrote:I say read the instructions. Only a fucking retard would have trouble installing a light fixture.

Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 2:44 am
by DRuM
LawL wrote:
No one gives a shit what you say, faggot.

Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:05 am
by Scarface
phantasmagoria wrote:all household is ~230 in the UK
i c
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:07 am
by Scarface
Nightshade wrote:
10 years as an electronics tech, now I'm an electrical engineer.
So you've never really used tools then?
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 6:38 am
by Peenyuh
Just the one.
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:58 pm
by Scarface
nice
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:11 pm
by Nightshade
Scarface wrote:Nightshade wrote:
10 years as an electronics tech, now I'm an electrical engineer.
So you've never really used tools then?
I come from a family of electricians, I found the prospect of being a wire jerker boring. You have fun with that Yellow Jacket, though.
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 9:46 pm
by Scarface
I don't work res, i do industrial/automation/PLC programming. But nice try
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:46 am
by MKJ
Underpants? wrote:
we have lower voltage, but higher amperage (which, correct me if i'm wrong NS, is considered deadlier?)--
correct. static electricity is about 10kV but hardly any Amps. you dont hear about people getting electrocuted after rubbing balloons much do you.
Underpants? wrote:
P.S. MKJ, Ryo, Eraser, and Saturn, I hope to be coming your way and expect a massive hashing, beering, needle-sharing-and-unprotected-hookering good time after the New Year. Well, maybe all that except for the hash, needle sharing and hookers.
coo, be sure to post or PM when the time comes

fyi as a tourist you're supposed to buy the first 10 rounds, or you'll get kicked in the nut.
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:37 pm
by Ryoki
What MKJ said

Have you got a specific date yet?
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:00 pm
by Eraser
Underpants? wrote:P.S. MKJ, Ryo, Eraser, and Saturn, I hope to be coming your way and expect a massive hashing, beering, needle-sharing-and-unprotected-hookering good time after the New Year. Well, maybe all that except for the hash, needle sharing and hookers.
There's a coffeeshop in my street so I know where to get the goods if you wants it

Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:17 pm
by MKJ
he's talking about coming to amsterdam, not etten-leur or whatever backwater place you live in
im sure finding a coffeeshop wont be a problem. hell there's three of 'm opposite central station

Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:30 pm
by Eraser
Etten-Leur lol no, I live in the most dangerous city in the world: Gouda. Even the bus drivers are too scared to go there.
Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:41 pm
by MKJ
.. but you're welcome to come too, obviously

Re: Anyone know about earth wires?
Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 1:42 pm
by MKJ
gouda eh. aint that cute, I'm there semi-regularly. half my inlaws live there ysee.
... youre not one of them are you?
