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Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:26 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
riddla wrote:AmIdYfReAk wrote:riddla wrote:
bullshit.
allright, if you think it is man...
I'm a sysadmin and know so. Installed SP2 on about 50+ existing installs without so much as a hiccup.
His crash is because of something that has modified the OS, no bones about it.
well its good for another fellow admin to voice his opinion... but.. mine tends to go along with ~75% of all of the admins in northamerica...
the chance of the upgraddign process is greator to fuck up rather then a clean install, unless you know 100% what the computer is runnign and if it will have an issue with SP2. in that case, where you are talking about a controlled software library, its a little easyer to tell if something is going to blow up Vs a home user..
i admin a small network on the side for a small company, ( win 2003 server, ~50 clients ) and upgrading them to sp2, all went well except two pc's that blew up.. no problem, recovered it, and left them run SP1 untill i could reinstall the O/S compleatly..
wile Homeusers that i also repair, its allways a 50/50 shot because of the uncontrolled Software isntalls as well as the shitty programs that they log in..
you need to think in retrospect, A controlled office, Vs a homeuser..
You thing about that and get back to me.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:26 pm
by Foo
Shmee wrote:
That's great to know - thanks :icon14:
And at the same time, you gotta admit, a bit disturbing

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:27 pm
by losCHUNK
any updates dude ?
and yea my 1st 2 tries and updating to sp2 went tits up, dont fancy doing it again

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:27 pm
by Xed
nested quotes are annoying
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:28 pm
by Shmee
Foo wrote:Shmee wrote:
That's great to know - thanks :icon14:
And at the same time, you gotta admit, a bit disturbing

More than a bit actually... I don't care about the duncecaps at work - it's
my stuff I'm worried about

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:29 pm
by Foo
AmIdYfReAk wrote:memph, for future refrence.. DO NOT INSTALL SP2 on an previos install..
ONLY install SP2 when its slipstreamed on the XP that you are installing.. trust me on this one.
you need to think in retrospect, A controlled office, Vs a homeuser..
You thing about that and get back to me.
I don't disagree with that, but it's rather a step down from your previous blanket statement.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:29 pm
by Shmee
Xed wrote:nested quotes are annoying
So right. I guess the super-custom-modding blitz has ended

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:30 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
in your pref's. you can set to only nest 1 quote deep
Foo wrote:AmIdYfReAk wrote:memph, for future refrence.. DO NOT INSTALL SP2 on an previos install..
ONLY install SP2 when its slipstreamed on the XP that you are installing.. trust me on this one.
you need to think in retrospect, A controlled office, Vs a homeuser..
You thing about that and get back to me.
I don't disagree with that, but it's rather a step down from your previous blanket statement.
what do you mean?
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 9:52 pm
by bork[e]
Foo wrote:bork[e] wrote:just letting you cunts know, he can't load windows can he.
WP for not noticing the bit about using safe mode, and the recovery console.
Both of which probably work just fine.
your welcome
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:20 pm
by SOAPboy
AmIdYfReAk wrote:riddla wrote:AmIdYfReAk wrote:
allright, if you think it is man...
I'm a sysadmin and know so. Installed SP2 on about 50+ existing installs without so much as a hiccup.
His crash is because of something that has modified the OS, no bones about it.
well its good for another fellow admin to voice his opinion... but.. mine tends to go along with ~75% of all of the admins in northamerica...
the chance of the upgraddign process is greator to fuck up rather then a clean install, unless you know 100% what the computer is runnign and if it will have an issue with SP2. in that case, where you are talking about a controlled software library, its a little easyer to tell if something is going to blow up Vs a home user..
i admin a small network on the side for a small company, ( win 2003 server, ~50 clients ) and upgrading them to sp2, all went well except two pc's that blew up.. no problem, recovered it, and left them run SP1 untill i could reinstall the O/S compleatly..
wile Homeusers that i also repair, its allways a 50/50 shot because of the uncontrolled Software isntalls as well as the shitty programs that they log in..
you need to think in retrospect, A controlled office, Vs a homeuser..
You thing about that and get back to me.
Never install SP2 unless its a fresh install..
Or SlipSteamed..
Otherwise its best to leave it off..
50/50 shot it works if its a old install thats had tons of shit installed and uninstalled..
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 10:43 pm
by AmIdYfReAk
riddla wrote:He means learn to spell and your computer skills might get better too

ofcorse, then maby i wouldent have had such a hardtime in Dos/linux console.

,
and soap, im not sure if you are regergitating what im saying.. or agreeing with me....
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:11 pm
by Cool Blue
Don't worry about fucking up the file rights. That's all they are, file rights, your data will always be okay.
Taking ownership simply wipes the file security tables and sets the user you selected as, essentially as far as the file is concerned, as the adminsitrator of that file(s).
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:12 pm
by Cool Blue
Memphis wrote:Right, i'm now in safe mode
But i'm buggered if I can figure out how to 'take ownership' and be able to access this folder
Would someone be kind enough to talk me through this please?
As usual the help docs are about as useful as farting at a hurricane :icon27:
Cool Blue wrote:You need to take ownership of the old 'My Documents' folder.
Right click the folder > Properties > Security > Advanced > Owner
Select your current user from the list of users in the dialog box. They click 'apply'. Can take a few minutes to overwrite the security, but afterwords you'll have full access again.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:13 pm
by Cool Blue
Relax, you won't lose data.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:14 pm
by PhoeniX
What is that message?

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:17 pm
by phantasmagoria
i recently discovered streamlining...what a fucking incredible, timesaving and hasstle free idea.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:20 pm
by Cool Blue
riddla wrote:SOAPboy wrote:
Never install SP2 unless its a fresh install..
Or SlipSteamed..
Otherwise its best to leave it off..
50/50 shot it works if its a old install thats had tons of shit installed and uninstalled..
total disinformation. fucking n00b.
Agreed. I've never had a problem applying SP2 to any system. Must be over 500 by now too.

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:27 pm
by Cool Blue
You should be good. Logon to msn.
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:29 pm
by The HavoX
Xed wrote:nested quotes are annoying

Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:41 pm
by Guest
Memphis wrote:IT WORKED!!!! :O
Right, no lies now. And I'm not even drunk (yet - *opens celebtratory can*)...
I fucking LOVE you guys.
Jesus christ I've never been so relieved in my entire fucking life. And that includes numerous pregnancy scares and realising I'm still alive after being hit by a twat on a motorbike.
THANK YOU!!!
Now, I can boot into normal mode and access this folder to back it up right?
Or do I have to back up now as admin?
I hope nero works.....
It is great to read that in one of the last posts.
I was wondering how I could help, since I have spent hours repairing things like that. Believe me I understand what a frustration it is, specially when it says -you can't access this account, ask the permission to the administrative of this computer. But this computer is yours.
You need a lot...a lot of patience.
Pete
Posted: Fri Apr 15, 2005 11:42 pm
by blood.angel
I take full credit for helping Memphis.
If it werent for my moral support he would be blowing chavs for the money to buy a new computer.
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:19 am
by SOAPboy
riddla wrote:SOAPboy wrote:
Never install SP2 unless its a fresh install..
Or SlipSteamed..
Otherwise its best to leave it off..
50/50 shot it works if its a old install thats had tons of shit installed and uninstalled..
total disinformation. fucking n00b.
Its great it works for YOU constantly, and while ive personally never installed it and had issues, i know ive had CUSTOMERS come in with computers they "just installed SP2" on, and had their shit fucked up..
btw you "fucking n00b", ive been doing this for 12 years..
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:21 am
by The HavoX
cheer up soupbowl
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 1:25 am
by bork[e]
SOAPboy wrote:riddla wrote:SOAPboy wrote:
Never install SP2 unless its a fresh install..
Or SlipSteamed..
Otherwise its best to leave it off..
50/50 shot it works if its a old install thats had tons of shit installed and uninstalled..
total disinformation. fucking n00b.
Its great it works for YOU constantly, and while ive personally never installed it and had issues, i know ive had CUSTOMERS come in with computers they "just installed SP2" on, and had their shit fucked up..
btw you "fucking n00b", ive been doing this for 12 years..
The word 'customer' blows everything you just said...no shit they fuck it up, not like they do it on purpose but come on goth0!
Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:12 am
by SOAPboy
bork[e] wrote:SOAPboy wrote:riddla wrote:
total disinformation. fucking n00b.
Its great it works for YOU constantly, and while ive personally never installed it and had issues, i know ive had CUSTOMERS come in with computers they "just installed SP2" on, and had their shit fucked up..
btw you "fucking n00b", ive been doing this for 12 years..
The word 'customer' blows everything you just said...no shit they fuck it up, not like they do it on purpose but come on goth0!
Use as a general term.. IE, not the TECH or a TECH that did it.. and memph, is a "end user" at this point..
so, fuck off, noob..