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Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:24 pm
by mjrpes
bork[e] wrote:[lvlshot]http://www.members.cox.net/borke/desktop.JPG[/lvlshot]
hey, you stole my wallpaper (although mine's a bit more brownish).

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 5:37 pm
by ilum0s
[lvlshot]http://www.ilumos.co.uk/misc/Desktop.png[/lvlshot]

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:23 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
R00k wrote:Another spyware cleaner, like AdAware. It catches a lot of things AdAware doesn't.
lol

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:28 pm
by saturn
Nightshade wrote:
saturn wrote:
Quality, Mandelbrot sets. :up:
dmmh posted a site where i got some great fractals from: http://exoteric.roach.org/bg/index.html

you need a login and a pw to download them, it's in the FAQ

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:28 pm
by R00k
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
R00k wrote:Another spyware cleaner, like AdAware. It catches a lot of things AdAware doesn't.
lol
:icon16:

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:29 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
R00k wrote::icon16:
both of those are really good, they just don't get updated with the exact same reference files at the exact same time so of course one is going to find some others don't.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:35 pm
by R00k
Well no shit.


That's not the only reason either - they both catch different parts of programs, and they both have different scanning mechanisms and approach the cleaning in a completely different way.
But since you're the resident expert on spyware apps, I don't need to tell you that.

If you've got a point to make, why not just say it? What's the deal with everybody trying to condescend about geeky software? :icon27:

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:40 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
haha never said i was the expert, i have both, but normally just use adaware.

referring to scanning mechanisms, both can be set up from root scans and beyond, but most people just point and click "next", "scan", etc, without bothering to check out the advanced settings/options. oh, but i'm sure you already knew that.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 6:47 pm
by R00k
Yes, I did.
If you look carefully, at the bottom left corner during scanning, you can catch an idea of the difference in their basic scanning routine. This doesn't change due to advanced configuration options.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:04 pm
by sirstrongbad
out of curiosity, i recently reformatted and didn't install adaware or spybot- but i did install the microsoft anti-spyware beta package. is this not sufficient along with symantec antivirus?

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:05 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
yeah, the routines are different as is MS's beta (which sucks, btw), but i don't see Spybot having a better scanning technique than Adaware. imo, one's got more eye candy than the other and that's about it. it's not as easy to compare as say, browsers are.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:16 pm
by Who
ilum0s wrote:[lvlshot]http://www.ilumos.co.uk/misc/Desktop.png[/lvlshot]
can u msg me all the details that go with that setup

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:32 pm
by Bdw3
heh-

[lvlshot]http://img112.echo.cx/img112/7914/dt7zq.jpg[/lvlshot]
Back on the pad for the first time in 2 years. :icon14:



Edit:

Fortunecity. :icon33:

.....Finally got their anti-hotlinking working... :(

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:32 pm
by R00k
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:yeah, the routines are different as is MS's beta (which sucks, btw), but i don't see Spybot having a better scanning technique than Adaware. imo, one's got more eye candy than the other and that's about it. it's not as easy to compare as say, browsers are.
I never tried to say one was better than the other, you just inferred that. I just said that SpyBot catches things that AdAware doesn't, which is why I run both of them, as you can see in the screenshot.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:46 pm
by Ryoki
Image

Friend of mine made that for another friend and i made a picture haha.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:47 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
R00k wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:yeah, the routines are different as is MS's beta (which sucks, btw), but i don't see Spybot having a better scanning technique than Adaware. imo, one's got more eye candy than the other and that's about it. it's not as easy to compare as say, browsers are.
I never tried to say one was better than the other, you just inferred that. I just said that SpyBot catches things that AdAware doesn't, which is why I run both of them, as you can see in the screenshot.
didn't look at your screenshot. just saw your post regarding Spybot. i don't see why you would say that then and still run Adaware. if Spybot finds stuff Adaware doesn't and you have both installed, then Adaware finds stuff that Spybot doesn't also, but i didn't see you saying that.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:05 pm
by R00k
Because he didn't ask about Ad Aware, he asked what SpyBot was! :lol:

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:16 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
R00k wrote:Because he didn't ask about Ad Aware, he asked what SpyBot was! :lol:
that's a good way to skirt it.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:28 pm
by PieceMaker
saturn wrote:
Nightshade wrote:
saturn wrote:
Quality, Mandelbrot sets. :up:
dmmh posted a site where i got some great fractals from: http://exoteric.roach.org/bg/index.html

you need a login and a pw to download them, it's in the FAQ
Yeah just email the guy and and let him know which sizes you want.

He says, "(up to two sizes only)". So I asked for 1600x1200 & 2048x1536.

Got a response within 2 days and he emailed a link to download the zips.

Sweet deal and some really nice images.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 9:30 pm
by PieceMaker
Bdw3 wrote:heh-


Edit:

Fortunecity. :icon33:

.....Finally got their anti-hotlinking working... :(
I see the DesertCombat shortcut. I have to find some time and play some.

Fun times we had with the helios!!!!

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:03 pm
by R00k
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
R00k wrote:Because he didn't ask about Ad Aware, he asked what SpyBot was! :lol:
that's a good way to skirt it.
Surely you're not serious.

I have AdAware and SpyBot both in my little shortcut menu. He asks what SpyBot is. I tell him it's basically like AdAware, but catches some things that AdAware doesn't. Since I've got them both installed, it's obvious that I don't prefer it exclusively over AdAware (which you've said yourself).

But you think I have somehow intentionally implied that SpyBot is better, and I am refusing to admit that I meant to imply that?

What is this, fucking application espionage or something? :icon27:

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:05 pm
by R00k
SpyBot S&D IS NO BETTER OR WORSE THAN ADAWARE, IT IS MERELY A USEFUL ADDITION TO ANY RESPECTABLE SPYWARE SECURITY SUITE THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT WISH TO RUN ON YOUR HOME PC










Now back to the desktops!

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:24 pm
by ilum0s
R00k wrote:SpyBot S&D IS NO BETTER OR WORSE THAN ADAWARE, IT IS MERELY A USEFUL ADDITION TO ANY RESPECTABLE SPYWARE SECURITY SUITE THAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT WISH TO RUN ON YOUR HOME PC










Now back to the desktops!
Fucking agreed :icon14:

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 10:51 pm
by rep
Timeline:

0 Jesus Born
34 Jesus Dies
1776 America becomes God
1812 Don't talk back to God
1945 I said don't talk back to God!
1963 MKULTRA in action
1995 Michael Jackson's HIStory
2001 MKULTRA part II
2003 War ends, Iraq and world in love with USA
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2005 R00k makes a useful post

Spybot, Adaware, HijackThis, and the Microsoft tool all find different things. Some don't count, like Adaware thinking your homepage being about:blank is a virushackerwormbomb or whatever, but they all find different things.

Using all of those, deleting your cache and temp folders, running regcleaner and whatever else you can find should do the trick.

Image Older shot, 25% of actual size. I don't want people reading my book (yet) or personal notes.

Posted: Mon Apr 11, 2005 11:30 pm
by 4g3nt_Smith
[lvlshot]http://www.ag3nts.info/files/desktops/411.jpg[/lvlshot]

Hmm, lvlshot works.