Yanks and Brits angry about gay fairytales

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Immo wrote:
GONNAFISTYA wrote:You posted this:
Immo wrote:I don't want my kids reading a book about two princes fucking eachother in the ass. I can understand why others don't want it either.
Immo wrote:
Nope, it won't mention assfucking and it shouldn't. Thats besides the point. I was describing the fairy tale as I see it.
Well then what is your point?
The point was, I don't want my children being shown homo-sexuality in a fairy tale. Leave the sexual orientation issue for when children are less easily influenced and can think for themselves.
YES BECAUSE IT MIGHT TURN THEM QUEERGAY.
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plained wrote:books are crap anyways
one of my favorite stories "the mole that wanted to know who took a crap on his head"

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Giraffe }{unter wrote:
plained wrote:books are crap anyways
one of my favorite stories "the mole that wanted to know who took a crap on his head"

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:olo: :olo: :olo:

I read that book last Friday at a party. Cracked me up.

I laughed so hard at that book the lady that owned the house gave it to me.
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Giraffe }{unter wrote:
plained wrote:books are crap anyways
one of my favorite stories "the mole that wanted to know who took a crap on his head"

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lol i used to have that one :olo:
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MKJ wrote:by witholding homosexuality from them, dont you think that influences them? especially if their dad refers to homosexuals as "shitpackers" ?
Yes it does influence them. I really have no problem with gay people personally, but still, the thought of my children being gay frightens me. I am not 'right' on the political spectrum either.

Werldhed, I don't think that is wrong, because it's promoting a healthy male-female relationship which God or evolution (whichever you believe) wished us to have.

It is probably harsh to have it banned, but I can't say I disagree with their argument.
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Dude, kids wouldn't even get the fact that they are gay. At the reading fairy tale age they're just going to think of the love as friend/family. Maybe I was sheltered or retarded but I had no concept of sex/love/relationships until I was probably 10.
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Giraffe }{unter wrote:
plained wrote:books are crap anyways
one of my favorite stories "the mole that wanted to know who took a crap on his head"

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Please tell me that's not the actual title of the book. I don't speak moon language, so I have no idea.
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I don't know what language that is (I'm not cultured).

But I believe the original version is German, and that is indeed the title.
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OMG :olo:
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my dad taught me that fags are gay
its apparent that many here have been taught to be homo lovers
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Wow, did your dad figure out that fags are gay all by himself? Clear that the rock doesn't drop far from the boulder.
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stocktroll wrote:my dad taught me that fags are gay
its apparent that many here have been taught to be homo lovers
He taught you fags are gay? Really? He is enlightened.

Did he also teach you that queers are gay?
Or that homosexuals are gay?

Or gays? Did he teach you that gays are gay?
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we're gonna turn all your kids gay!

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CaseDogg wrote:we're gonna turn all your kids gay!

bwahahahahhaha!

so hot! ;)
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bitWISE wrote:
CaseDogg wrote:we're gonna turn all your kids gay!

bwahahahahhaha!

so hot! ;)
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stocktroll wrote:my dad taught me that fags are gay
its apparent that many here have been taught to be homo lovers
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There's nothing wrong with a book like this being published and in circulation. However, I don't believe there would be any place for it in schools -- I mean, does it teach some kind of important lesson? What reason is there for it to be added to school curriculum? Just because it has homosexuals in it, and there isn't anything else about homosexuality in the school? That's not a reason.

Fairy tales like this are for the home -- if parents want to read them to their kids to entertain them, or teach them moral lessons, then they are out there for that purpose. A school's responsibility is not to teach morals (not directly), but for general education.

If this book weren't in schools, then we could honestly say that the only reason it is getting so much press (and therefore the only reason that their kids would ever even find out about it), is because of the religious zealots who are screaming about it -- and that would be a perfect world, because that's what they deserve.
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R00k wrote:There's nothing wrong with a book like this being published and in circulation. However, I don't believe there would be any place for it in schools -- I mean, does it teach some kind of important lesson? What reason is there for it to be added to school curriculum? Just because it has homosexuals in it, and there isn't anything else about homosexuality in the school? That's not a reason.

Fairy tales like this are for the home -- if parents want to read them to their kids to entertain them, or teach them moral lessons, then they are out there for that purpose. A school's responsibility is not to teach morals (not directly), but for general education.

If this book weren't in schools, then we could honestly say that the only reason it is getting so much press (and therefore the only reason that their kids would ever even find out about it), is because of the religious zealots who are screaming about it -- and that would be a perfect world, because that's what they deserve.
I disagree. There's nothing wrong with a book like this being in schools. It's about a simple fact of life. Some couples are of the same sex.
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What? Do schools currently make it a point of curriculum (and have a book) to describe heterosexual marriage to the kids with two dads?

Of course not.

I never read Snow White or Sleeping Beauty at school - I read those at home, because they were books my parents bought.

You don't read fairy tales in school, you learn the alphabet and grammar, and punctuation, and spelling and sentence structure.
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we did learn about curtural, religious and sexual differences at school, too :paranoid:
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Post by HM-PuFFNSTuFF »

and i deeply believe that schools should and do try to teach morality... if you tried to remove moral content from education there's a lot of stuff that would disappear from current curriculum... i.e. shakespeare
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Post by HM-PuFFNSTuFF »

R00k wrote:What? Do schools currently make it a point of curriculum (and have a book) to describe heterosexual marriage to the kids with two dads?
schools do certainly reinforce the heterosexual norm from the earliest stages of education
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That's not what I asked though.
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Post by R00k »

Before we go any farther here, at what grade level are they trying to introduce this into curriculum?

Because the comparisons of to a fairy tale led me to believe it is a young child's book.

Of course schools touch on issues of morality and such - but you're not analyzing Shakespeare in pre-school now are you? That material comes later, when you've developed your own sense of morality enough to understand it.
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bitWISE wrote:
CaseDogg wrote:we're gonna turn all your kids gay!

bwahahahahhaha!

so hot! ;)
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