xp or vista ?

[dzjepp]

lol yeah i suck at e-flames

i consider you my inter-buddy though. once i get gold mebbe we can play some gow or graw2 eh?

[Doombrain]

don't know if i'm getting graw2. still playing r6v

[Foo]

xp is still good... if you are competent and have a solid 3rd party security toolset (spyware/av/etc.) then you don't really need vista right now.

lol rolf yeah. why would you want to stay with an out of date OS. oh yeah! because teh big M$ is playin me omg they can see me lol wtf i'm nevea updatin to vista because, because, because there will still be updates for XP and it still works omg wtf. vista sucks, m$ sucks, new stuff sucks. why would you want to update to the xbox 360, the xbox still has support lol wtf, wtf.

you're a moron.

Lol bollocks. Name 1 compelling reason to update to Vista right now. By which I mean something you need it for that XP won't accomplish.

Back with 98/2000/ME/XP there were solid reasons, 98 would just up and crash after 2 or 3 days uptime regardless of what you were doing and 2000 was plain better than both 98 and ME, then XP came and there was no compelling reason to switch to it until later down the line when support for the others ceased.

[Tormentius]

Well the wikipedia article says the next windows (vienna or whatever it'll end up being called) has rumored dates of 2009. but of course it probably won't reach that. Just seems to early. Maybe 2010-11

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_%22Vienna%22

They probably won't release another major version that quickly. 2011, iirc, is when the next major release should fall. Their plan in commiting to 2-yr minor and 4-yr major releases is for the release dates to coincide with the 2 year Software Assurance terms so corporate clients see some return on their investment.

[plained]

Im on Vista and I fuckin luv it. There's minor stuff in there, which tbhshould have been coded years ago, that makes it worth while if you ask me.

Ill give one example: on XP and previous M$ OS's, when renaming a file, the system would select the extension as well to be renamed (I dont hide extensions, I think that is very stupid and it is cumbersome). On Vista, it only selects the filename part. It's just those little things that make it more user friendly. It looks good, its way more user friendly (no need to regedit to change my documents source directory is and other user folders is another example)

It takes getting used to and you will have to be patient for driver updates and support for programs, but that doesnt bother me personally. I ran XP from the first alpha and was hooked instantly and now I just cant go back to XP. Get a spiffy machine though, you'll need it.

i understand what you mean about the little things, and that was kind of what i was asking about with my ease of use comment.

comming from mac os's (pre x, but i used/use x ) i felt i had gone down in alot of handy ways when i went to xp from os 9 for example.

yea it will be a spiffy one ,but i'll get another in 24 months anyways.

[Doombrain]

xp is still good... if you are competent and have a solid 3rd party security toolset (spyware/av/etc.) then you don't really need vista right now.

lol rolf yeah. why would you want to stay with an out of date OS. oh yeah! because teh big M$ is playin me omg they can see me lol wtf i'm nevea updatin to vista because, because, because there will still be updates for XP and it still works omg wtf. vista sucks, m$ sucks, new stuff sucks. why would you want to update to the xbox 360, the xbox still has support lol wtf, wtf.

you're a moron.

Lol bollocks. Name 1 compelling reason to update to Vista right now. By which I mean something you need it for that XP won't accomplish.

Back with 98/2000/ME/XP there were solid reasons, 98 would just up and crash after 2 or 3 days uptime regardless of what you were doing and 2000 was plain better than both 98 and ME, then XP came and there was no compelling reason to switch to it until later down the line when support for the others ceased.

Don’t be so idiotic. The question was ‘if I buy a NEW computer should I go with the latest OS or stick with the last gen OS’.

Here’s your reason, progression.

Bunch of fucking nerds.

[plained]

well one reason i can see from this thread is on a brand new spec machine

xp will be faster

[dzjepp]

plained never said he was getting a new laptop, for all i know hes gonna get one that is a few years old

queef

[Foo]

Don’t be so idiotic. The question was ‘if I buy a NEW computer should I go with the latest OS or stick with the last gen OS’.

Here’s your reason, progression.

Bunch of fucking nerds.

Do you buy the very latest cameras when they come out? How about scanners, printers? Just because they're out? How about graphics card, do you buy top of the line for £600 or a slightly older one for £200?

Or perhaps you stick with the more appropriate tools for whatever task you have in mind...

[plained]

plained never said he was getting a new laptop, for all i know hes gonna get one that is a few years old

queef

yea new old stock.

Intel Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz processor
• 1GB DDR2 PC2-4200 RAM
• 120GB SATA 5400rpm G-Sensor shock protection hard drive

[Doombrain]

Don’t be so idiotic. The question was ‘if I buy a NEW computer should I go with the latest OS or stick with the last gen OS’.

Here’s your reason, progression.

Bunch of fucking nerds.

Do you buy the very latest cameras when they come out? How about scanners, printers? Just because they're out? How about graphics card, do you buy top of the line for £600 or a slightly older one for £200?

Or perhaps you stick with the more appropriate tools for whatever task you have in mind...

Lol comparing cameras to a computer OS and packaged hardware. I suggest you read the question again.

[Doombrain]

but should i get one with vista instead?

[Doombrain]

plained never said he was getting a new laptop, for all i know hes gonna get one that is a few years old

queef

yea new old stock.

Intel Core 2 Duo T5600 1.83GHz processor
• 1GB DDR2 PC2-4200 RAM
• 120GB SATA 5400rpm G-Sensor shock protection hard drive

best get one with NT4 with that set up, or do you buy a new car every second because a new is made every second!

[dzjepp]

plained one, that setup should be fine for vista. it should still be speedy.

[plained]

yea but it'll fly on xp no?

[Foo]

Don’t be so idiotic. The question was ‘if I buy a NEW computer should I go with the latest OS or stick with the last gen OS’.

Here’s your reason, progression.

Bunch of fucking nerds.

Do you buy the very latest cameras when they come out? How about scanners, printers? Just because they're out? How about graphics card, do you buy top of the line for £600 or a slightly older one for £200?

Or perhaps you stick with the more appropriate tools for whatever task you have in mind...

Lol comparing cameras to a computer OS and packaged hardware. I suggest you read the question again.

Or how about justify your position instead of insulting the other party and telling them to go back and re-read? Also, you made the new/old hardware comparison with the xbox thing, so if anyone needs to re-read... you should at least be able to remember your own position, amirite?

[Grudge]

If you are BUYING a new OS for a new computer today, why the fuck would you buy an old OS? That doesn't make sense. For any decently specced computer, you won't notice any speed difference between xp and vista. In some cases even, for example when starting and closing applications vista will be faster than XP due to it's smart caching and better memory management.

[plained]

na os comes with comps these days grudge

[Doombrain]

Do you buy the very latest cameras when they come out? How about scanners, printers? Just because they're out? How about graphics card, do you buy top of the line for £600 or a slightly older one for £200?

Or perhaps you stick with the more appropriate tools for whatever task you have in mind...

Lol comparing cameras to a computer OS and packaged hardware. I suggest you read the question again.

Or how about justify your position instead of insulting the other party and telling them to go back and re-read? Also, you made the new/old hardware comparison with the xbox thing, so if anyone needs to re-read... you should at least be able to remember your own position, amirite?

Haha, he asked and I gave my opinion, it's on page one if you look.

Then all the omg no gang turned up all angry like innit.
The best anti vista point bought up was MS would support XP until 2009. lol.

Then you storm in with your bad language demanding to know one good reason to go vista over XP and I gave you the ultimate answer. Sorry you couldn't deal with it.

[Grudge]

na os comes with comps these days grudge

lol, do you think you are not paying for it?

[Doombrain]

If you are BUYING a new OS for a new computer today, why the fuck would you buy an old OS? That doesn't make sense. For any decently specced computer, you won't notice any speed difference between xp and vista. In some cases even, for example when starting and closing applications vista will be faster than XP due to it's smart caching and better memory management.

yeah buy MS will support XP until 2009 so why would you want to move with the rest of the sheep eh? eh? lol wtf.

[Tormentius]

yea but it'll fly on xp no?

You probably won't notice any difference to be honest.

[plained]

lol you think thats my level of think?

na , because the comp is n.o.s. ,the markdown amount is about 35% cheaper than a vista equiped one.

[Iccy]

Simple. XP.


skip vista, in a few years the real next MS OS will be out, i think its 2 years. XP is perfect as it is and vista is still problematic with drivers and such not to mention its a considerably large resource hog. They both arent that bad though, so for whatever reason if your leaning to vista, i doubt you will have serious regrets, especially after the first service pack.

my 2 cents.

You don't really have a clue what you're talking about, do you? MS will put out a minor revision to Vista in 2 years as per the commitment Bill made last year to release minor versions every 2 years and major versions every 4 years so in order to entice corporations into signing up for Software Assurance. The "R2" version might add a few features but it will mostly be a security overhaul and patch rollup along the lines of XP SP2. It will be 4 years at least before we see another major version of Windows, so no, Vista isn't going anywhere.

Plained: If you're getting a new laptop then go with Vista.

Well that was a dickish response.


I dont know, i feel my opinion was fairly well reasoned and left open minded enough for reasonable debate. I read it again and yup, still makes sense. I think you might wanna contemplate who you were really talking to in that reply.

Peace out brotha.

[dzjepp]

Actually torm replies that way to a lot of people. So don't take it too personally.