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aye. suits are for management, sales people and wankers. they know you're not management and they know you're not sales. unless you want them to think you're a wanker, don't wear a suit.

and what rook said about the tie.

it's important that you appear to know what you're talking about and that you appear to listen. it doesn't matter if you're thinking about baseball, chocolate or tits, as long as you look like you're listening.

take notes and try to action something they suggest at the meeting quickly, so even if it doesn't go as well as you'd liked, you can show that you get things done, and everyone likes people who do that (unless they work in local government).

bitWISE wrote:I'm going to assume a full suit would be a bit much for someone in my position.

a full suit is never too much for any position. i did a 2 month apprenticeship in a law firm at the start of this summer and i wore a suit every day and the other apprentice there didnt. i got asked back for a full year apprenticeship as soon as i finish law school and the other guy didnt.....u may think ur overdressed but ur representing ur company so u wana look sharp

Management, sales and fucking lawyers then.

nah man, u dress well as a sign of respect and politeness, as someone mentioned above. and regardless of what u think u look like, older people with more business experience than u WILL be impressed.

i duno why u wouldnt want to wear a suit anyway, they look infinitely times better than anything else. just wearing a shirt and a tie?? wtf no, that looks so unprofessional

lol, no it doesn't.

Things like this can differ hugely according to the industry you're in. And, well, lawyers pretty much always wear suits, we know this.

However, I've been working in my field for nearly 10 years now, and quite often wearing a suit would be highly overdressed, even when meeting with customers.

They aren't there for formality, they're meeting with you to get down to business and get shit done for the most part. And you earn their respect by displaying your commitment and being practical and professional, and leaving them with the feeling that they've made a good choice. A suit doesn't even figure into that.

I normally wear an oxford, slacks and a tie, and I've certainly never had any problems with first impressions.

lol, you lot. his dress should be outlined in the company handbook.

I'd ask my boss what to wear before I'd dress according to the company handbook.

why, you lovers?

Freakaloin wrote:lol...worrying about what to wear...at a....job....rofl...

lol...having a life....rofl

CitizenKane wrote:nah man, u dress well as a sign of respect and politeness, as someone mentioned above. and regardless of what u think u look like, older people with more business experience than u WILL be impressed.

i duno why u wouldnt want to wear a suit anyway, they look infinitely times better than anything else. just wearing a shirt and a tie?? wtf no, that looks so unprofessional

Exactly. If you're meeting a client the last thing you want to do is walk into the meeting in a shirt and slacks or t-shirt and blazer then find out everyone else (including your boss) is in a suit. It'll make you look like a poorly dressed chump. If you want to be a little more casual wear a suit sans tie and remember to polish up your shoes. Its amazing how many people neglect that and it shows a lack of attention to detail, which isn't exactly the impression you want to give as a developer.

Doombrain wrote:lol, you lot. his dress should be outlined in the company handbook.

I honestly don't think we have one. I'm one of like eight developers. I'm not the first to visit this client and I'm certainly not our true representative to them but I think I'll check with my boss just to be sure I don't under dress. I don't mind wearing a nice suit/tie but I hate to over dress because it makes me feel awkward which adds to the stress I already have thanks to being shy/introverted.

You wanna fuck being shy off mate. You need to project yourself. Don’t mumble. Always be clear on what you’re saying.

wear a butt plug too. it'll keep you nice and horny and the dude will never even know.

so dope!

lol

CaseDogg wrote:wear a butt plug too. it'll keep you nice and horny and the dude will never even know.

so dope!

lol sick

just don't squirm around in the seat trying to make it rub your prostate. that's kinda a dead giveaway.

Tormentius wrote:

CitizenKane wrote:nah man, u dress well as a sign of respect and politeness, as someone mentioned above. and regardless of what u think u look like, older people with more business experience than u WILL be impressed.

i duno why u wouldnt want to wear a suit anyway, they look infinitely times better than anything else. just wearing a shirt and a tie?? wtf no, that looks so unprofessional

Exactly. If you're meeting a client the last thing you want to do is walk into the meeting in a shirt and slacks or t-shirt and blazer then find out everyone else (including your boss) is in a suit. It'll make you look like a poorly dressed chump. If you want to be a little more casual wear a suit sans tie and remember to polish up your shoes. Its amazing how many people neglect that and it shows a lack of attention to detail, which isn't exactly the impression you want to give as a developer.

Walking into a room and being the only suit in a room full of oxfords is nearly as bad though - like being a salesman at a family dinner.

If you wear a nice shirt & tie and some Brooks Bros slacks or something equally as nice, then you don't have to worry about being underdressed. You look like you're in a suit, and just decided to leave your jacket in the car or something.

I've never felt out of sorts in any size meeting dressing like this. Wearing a full suit to a meeting is a fairly rare occasion at all the places I've worked.

That said, if your primary business is traveling, meeting people and selling/pitching them your products, then a suit is expected.

But if this is an existing customer that has been working with your company for a while, I wouldn't think it would be expected.

Doombrain wrote:You wanna fuck being shy off mate. You need to project yourself. Don’t mumble. Always be clear on what you’re saying.

Good advice. Also, don't be indecisive or try to qualify everything.

You'll do fine man.

Or you could ask your boss and/or client on acceptable attire, but that would be much too easy. Better ask on an Internet forum to be sure.

Fender wrote:Or you could ask your boss and/or client on acceptable attire, but that would be much too easy. Better ask on an Internet forum to be sure.

rofl

Fender wrote:Or you could ask your boss and/or client on acceptable attire, but that would be much too easy. Better ask on an Internet forum to be sure.

Hey I sparked a two page discussion with a simple question. If I had posted about going on a trip a handful of people would have cared.

so yea just be yourself.

an all business yourself tho

so yea just be yourself.

an all business yourself tho

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