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Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:44 am
by R00k
Nightshade wrote:
By 'they', I'm referring to those people around the world who believe that a radical, intolerant interpretation of Islam, and the holy Quran, justifies them to murder and enslave everyone else on Earth who do not believe as they do. That they are called by God to conquer the world through violence and the indiscriminate killing of random people, even their own kind, and institute a single worldwide utopian empire based on their particularly cruel version of Islam.
You should tell him that, if you replace the word "Islam" with "Democracy," then a majority of the world right now would read that statement and think he is describing our government.

This asshole would clearly feel right at home blowing up a bunch of innocent people in the name of his beliefs.

If I didn't live in the bible belt myself, I would have a hard time believing people can be this self-righteous.

Tell me, does he have any idea you were in the Marines?

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 12:53 am
by Hannibal
Some muthafuckas are always trying to ice skate uphill.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 1:35 am
by Dukester
Doesn't really matter if we are in Iraq or not does it?
Let's just skip over to Sudan and Chad and look at what is happening there.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:04 am
by Nightshade
tnf wrote:is this the anti-evolution guy?
No, but I'm sure he falls into the same category, albeit with far less eloquent defense.

I'm pretty sure the guy knows I was in the Corps. I was just shocked at his 'reality of war' comment. Fuck, even I'M not arrogant enough to make a statement like that.
It really saddens me to see that he's sooooo fucking brainwashed. I could have been reading a Republican talking points memo. And they call Democrats 'Kool-Aid drinkers'...

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:08 am
by andyman
Nightshade wrote:
tnf wrote:is this the anti-evolution guy?
No, but I'm sure he falls into the same category, albeit with far less eloquent defense.

I'm pretty sure the guy knows I was in the Corps. I was just shocked at his 'reality of war' comment. Fuck, even I'M not arrogant enough to make a statement like that.
It really saddens me to see that he's sooooo fucking brainwashed. I could have been reading a Republican talking points memo. And they call Democrats 'Kool-Aid drinkers'...
He is a man who has done nothing challenging in his life. You need to take him hostage.

i am not saying that what he claims 'they' do is right, but he doesn't see where they are coming from to pass that kind of judgement.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:17 am
by andyman
Or just talk to him face to face to see what he says without much time to think about it...

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:19 am
by Massive Quasars
If you're intent on responding to him, do so in a non-adversarial manner, otherwise the exchange will turn to shit almost immediately. By the tone of his last comment, he may be dead set in his tracks, but treating him as if he were critically examining the situation may benefit you both.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 2:27 am
by Guest
That whole thing sounds madeup imho. No one can be that stupid and if a co-worker of mine was I doubt I'd work there.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:09 am
by Massive Quasars
What if you were that co-worker? Quandary.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:57 am
by Amurka
Why are perfectly good soldiers protecting people like this? Just another brick in the wall that thinks he knows "the reality of war". What a douche.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 3:59 am
by andyman
Amurka wrote:Why are perfectly good soldiers protecting people like this? Just another brick in the wall that thinks he knows "the reality of war". What a douche.
LOL it's not like we get to choose who to protect and who not to. i don't think the work 'protect' is fitting here to begin with though

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:32 am
by Nightshade
Massive Quasars wrote:If you're intent on responding to him, do so in a non-adversarial manner, otherwise the exchange will turn to shit almost immediately. By the tone of his last comment, he may be dead set in his tracks, but treating him as if he were critically examining the situation may benefit you both.
Oh, this is far from the first heated debate we've had. It's easier to discuss things via email sometimes because he's got a bad habit of verbally stomping on my statements. It's not as though I'm venting my full frustration with his idiocy when we're talking. Hell, that's why I'm posting this here, so I'm less prone to pimp-slap him.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:27 am
by Ryoki
Nightshade wrote:Lol, of course he hasn't. He's a fat sack of self-righteous shit. I'm arguing with him because I REALLY want to try to change his mind. It may not be possible, but I have to try. It's sort of an experiment to test my faith in humanity.
Man, you should have picked an experiment with a bigger chance of succes, this just seems doomed to fail...

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:59 am
by Massive Quasars
Nightshade wrote: Oh, this is far from the first heated debate we've had. It's easier to discuss things via email sometimes because he's got a bad habit of verbally stomping on my statements. It's not as though I'm venting my full frustration with his idiocy when we're talking. Hell, that's why I'm posting this here, so I'm less prone to pimp-slap him.
Your background may hold more sway with him than most any argument you'll present, though it doesn't necessarily follow from this likelyhood that it's a good idea to appeal to your background. A nice tactic to use for getting people to open up is to end some of your emails with a light hearted unrelated comment, especially when you think the discussion might turn south.

ASCII emoticons might be a good idea used in moderation, following the text of the light hearted comment. Avoid them in the text of your argument.

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:02 am
by MKJ
Kracus wrote:That whole thing sounds madeup imho. No one can be that stupid and if a co-worker of mine was I doubt I'd work there.
im sure thats how every one of your collegues feel

Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 9:18 am
by ek
:olo:

dont forget he only pretends he is an idiot..