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My grandparents where not jewish. They just didnt like what was being done and came to america. My father was the first born out of germany. He had nothing to do with WW2 but that didnt stop people from calling him Herman the german as he was growing up. It was to the point that he had to change his first and last name to something less german sounding (even though herman wasn't that german sounding, his last name was a dead give away).

Like I said though.... I'm not the one calling the pope a nazi. Just giving an explanation why everyone else was calling him a nazi does not mean I share the same opinion. I hate the catholic church no matter who is behind the wheel.

MKJ wrote:nay, its a hindu symbol, only mirrored



its really weird too, when i was in thailand there are temples and stuff with huge banners with swastika's on them and while it feels kinda creepy for us, it feels very peaceful and secure for them

It's actually a symbol found in many different beliefs. Many Native North American tribes, for instance, used the swastika. I don't know from whom Hitler borrowed it, though.

werldhed wrote:

MKJ wrote:nay, its a hindu symbol, only mirrored



its really weird too, when i was in thailand there are temples and stuff with huge banners with swastika's on them and while it feels kinda creepy for us, it feels very peaceful and secure for them

It's actually a symbol found in many different beliefs. Many Native North American tribes, for instance, used the swastika. I don't know from whom Hitler borrowed it, though.

this is true. it quickly oozed over to pretty much every religion and country. even the norse had it

werldhed wrote: It's actually a symbol found in many different beliefs. Many Native North American tribes, for instance, used the swastika. I don't know from whom Hitler borrowed it, though.

I once saw this awesome 'documentary' where they showed Hitler as a teenager drawing swastikas over everything

HIGH-larious

My 2-cents: I know that there are two swasticas, one flowing east-->west, like the sun, so this one is considered 'good.' The other one flows west-->east, which is 'evil,' and so Hitler chose that one as the icon/logo of the Nazi party. I read that in Joe Carr's "the Twisted Cross."

ScooterG wrote:The other one flows west-->east, which is 'evil,' and so Hitler chose that one as the icon/logo of the Nazi party.

Somehow I have my doubts that ol' Adolf thought of himself as the evil guy.

SplishSplash wrote:
So was everyone else at the time, including my grandma (in the girls department obviously, Jungmädelbund or whatever the name was). She was trained to shoot Bazookas. Her three husbands....

Did she lose many husbands in the war? Just curious, as three husbands seem a lot for that era....

SplishSplash wrote:

ScooterG wrote:The other one flows west-->east, which is 'evil,' and so Hitler chose that one as the icon/logo of the Nazi party.

Somehow I have my doubts that ol' Adolf thought of himself as the evil guy.

Yeah, they mentioned that he chose it cuz it was the one of the two that was not used popularly, but I'd bet evil wasn't the way he thought of it....

SplishSplash wrote:

ScooterG wrote:The other one flows west-->east, which is 'evil,' and so Hitler chose that one as the icon/logo of the Nazi party.

Somehow I have my doubts that ol' Adolf thought of himself as the evil guy.

he saw himself as some sort of demi-god, saving the germanic race

ScooterG wrote: Did she lose many husbands in the war? Just curious, as three husbands seem a lot for that era....

None actually. My grandfather was a scottish officer (This part of Germany was occupied by the british after the war) who died in a car crash shortly after my father was born. She got a divorce from the second one sometime in the 70s. When she married the third one she was already past 50 I think.

I guess she wasn't technically married to my grandfather though.

Thoroughly modern lady! :icon25:

Are you calling my grandma a slut?

Nope. My great-grandmother was a flapper (you know, in the Roaring 20's?) and she was married 9 times!!!

whats a flapper

im not old

Oh. Did you read The Great Gatsby or see Chicago?

SplishSplash wrote:Are you calling my grandma a slut?

olo

SplishSplash wrote:whats a flapper

im not old

nobody's that old

phantasmagoria wrote:

SplishSplash wrote:

ScooterG wrote:The other one flows west-->east, which is 'evil,' and so Hitler chose that one as the icon/logo of the Nazi party.

Somehow I have my doubts that ol' Adolf thought of himself as the evil guy.

he saw himself as some sort of demi-god, saving the germanic race

he used religion in the extend Bush has been doing in the past few years

BlueGene wrote:http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/01/18/ap/world/mainD8F7BDS03.shtml

Facchini said he recognized some Darwin proponents erroneously assume that evolution explains everything. "Better to recognize that the problem from the scientific point of view remains open," he said.

But he concluded: "In a vision that goes beyond the empirical horizon, we can say that we aren't men by chance or by necessity, and that the human experience has a sense and a direction signaled by a superior design."

so troo