Why is noone playing Q4 online?

Post by **Mogul** » Sun Jan 22, 2006 6:29 am

If by lag you mean low framerate, then yeah, that's a problem. Well, unless you use r_vertexlight 1 in Q4Max and the ambientlightonly command in xbattle.

Post by **Ver1tas** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:31 pm

PR 1.1 is out. There are 4 nice mod for Quake 4. There are 35x player online all of the world... (Saturday pm. ) Why? :/ I don't know...

Post by **DooMer** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:15 pm

they pulled 1.1. you got people playing 1.1, 1.0x, maybe even 1.1b right now. Everythings all fucked up.

Post by **Oeloe** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:18 pm

It's still swamped with bugs basically. PR 1.1 does improve some things, but major things like the sound are still broken. Gameplay could be improved a lot too but we have to wait for 1.2 for that...

Post by **Foo** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:46 pm

There's nothing about the game that I can't get from Q3. Well, except poor performance and ugly graphics.

Post by **Oeloe** » Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:52 pm

Getting poor performance in Q3 is pretty hard nowadays. Nice banner btw! :icon32:

Post by **Bugsy** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:03 am

Hands down it's the performance that is keeping people away, IMO. If id software would only implement vertexlight like option so lower end computers can actually run the game, we would have alot more players. I have a pretty good machine & performance during team based games (TDM, CTF) can get downright annoying when the screen gets filled up players.

If you have used Q4MAX, X-Battle or RA4, they have a vertexlight like option that makes the game 10x better performance wise & you don't have to resort to picmip 5 like textures either (which doesn't help). I can play with Ultra Quality textures, high resolution & still get a solid 60fps all over. This feature should really be a baseq4 option & not a mod option.

Let's hope point release 1.2 has vertexlight & some minor gameplay changes that will convince the mass to give Q4 another try. I will probably stop playing Q4 if things don't change for the better because it's not that fun right now. I will get my Quake fix from the upcoming Enemy Territory: Quake Wars.

I really hope Quake 4 won't be the first Quake game that fails to have a long life span.

Post by **I cant spell u** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:41 am

Talk about blast from the past. Any who, I think they need to add vertex lighting. What a lame post huh?

Post by **Goofos** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 7:25 am

Only thing which hold me back playing q4 is netcode and hit detection because mostly the best connection will win.

Post by **Bueller** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 8:21 am

Only thing that holds me back from playing Q4 is the horrible sound, multiple other bugs (lessoned by 1.1 final), lack of players at any given moment, and the fact that Q3 is just more fun for me personally at this point.

Also I have noticed that when Q4 came out alot of servers and players converted over to Q4. Numbers dropped a good bit in Q3. Now I see alot of them are coming back. Everyday seems to bring more players and servers whether it be 1.32 pb or no pb.

Post by **niko** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 11:20 am

Oeloe wrote:I've read things about ASE being slow to update the mod filters for certain games, but if you play Q3 mainly you don't want/need anything else. Setting ASE up to startup the right Q3 version 1.30/31/32 is relatively easy too.

For Q4, ASE is obviously totally useless (except when you have some favorite servers you always play on).

ASE is supporting q4 since december last year...
reinstall your ASE again, it will add support.. ccc

Post by **Oeloe** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 12:37 pm

Last time i checked it found 8 Q4 servers.

Post by **D'Artagnan** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:24 pm

The game just sucks...like i have said in another post, if they wait for too long, the game will died, cause nobody will be talking about that stupid game, that is fist of all not even optimize at all...the 3D engine is the worst of all in all the industrie.

If i compare this engine to some other new game that runs much better...as a exemple take F.E.A.R. this game has great effects and run pretty smoother, also The Chronicles of RIDDICK has great light effect and run smooth.

When I.D. release the quake 3 engine it was much better, all the game that came from that engine where running fine, but that new engine just sucks.

Just check the 2 games that allready came out from that engine, you got Doom III and Quake IV, on both games you have to tweak all kind of stuff to make it work properly.
You know its not everybody that know how to change thing into the config.cfg file, normally people just do some minor change into the game menu and BINGO youre game run fine.

I always had great respect for the game that came out of I.D. engine, but this time, i don't think they got it right....
Lucky for them that in the past they made a couples of great games, cause the way it is now, nobody would take the time to even talk about it...

Post by **xchaser** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 3:52 pm

I blame All Seeing Eye they suck. People have gotten use to using it now its broken and we can't find servers to play on.

Post by **Bueller** » Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:33 pm

niko wrote:
Oeloe wrote:I've read things about ASE being slow to update the mod filters for certain games, but if you play Q3 mainly you don't want/need anything else. Setting ASE up to startup the right Q3 version 1.30/31/32 is relatively easy too.

For Q4, ASE is obviously totally useless (except when you have some favorite servers you always play on).
ASE is supporting q4 since december last year...
reinstall your ASE again, it will add support.. ccc

Thats a big negative. Yes you can install some kind of crap patch for Q4 but if you don't add your own server lists to ASE it won't find shit in Q4.

Post by **Goofos** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:05 pm

I think you have better and quicker support for q4 with a registered version of ASE (i only heard this :>).

Post by **xchaser** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:21 pm

NOPE not true its still broken. ASE just sucks since Yahoo bought them out.

Post by **ichicanix** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:29 pm

Cause even with High End PC you get 30 fps in Deathmatch with 10 or more players.

Cause the movement isnt smooth

Cause you cant rjump properly

Cause its very hard to find a server (ingamebrowser sucks, missing maps..)

Cause sounds are crap

Cause there are many games like Q3, FEAR, that run much smoother

Cause they sold a game that isnt finished, still in work

Cause old Q3 players wont switch to a laggy game

Cause new players dont wanna get shot 5 times in 2 minutes

Q4 Failed, sorry!

Post by **ichicanix** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:32 pm

xchaser wrote:I blame All Seeing Eye they suck. People have gotten use to using it now its broken and we can't find servers to play on.

btw...i dont blame ASE

Check out ingame browser... ASE works much better then ingamebrowser

Post by **Oeloe** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:38 pm

From the interview with id about the 1.1 patch:

Is it planned for this patch to be the final game patch?

Willits: No. We have another one planned but the next update will be focused on adding more new content - we'll have more information available in the coming weeks, but it's a pretty large, professionally made update that we're once again giving to all of the players for free! We are having a lot of fun testing it here and we hope everyone else enjoys it too when it comes out.

Bah. :icon7: He's emphasizing the FREE!!11 content again but the masses will not start playing this game, regardless how many maps are added with pointreleases, as long as the gameplay, stability and performance of the game suck.

Post by **Bueller** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 5:06 pm

Oeloe wrote:From the interview with id about the 1.1 patch:

Is it planned for this patch to be the final game patch?

Willits: No. We have another one planned but the next update will be focused on adding more new content - we'll have more information available in the coming weeks, but it's a pretty large, professionally made update that we're once again giving to all of the players for free! We are having a lot of fun testing it here and we hope everyone else enjoys it too when it comes out.
Bah. :icon7: He's emphasizing the FREE!!11 content again but the masses will not start playing this game, regardless how many maps are added with pointreleases, as long as the gameplay, stability and performance of the game suck.

I agree, was offended and pissed off when I read that because twice in that article he mentiones FREE. Like we are supposed to be happy and content with that. Hell the game should be free since its so broken.

Post by **D'Artagnan** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:56 pm

Bueller wrote: Like we are supposed to be happy and content with that. Hell the game should be free since its so broken.

Good one, are we should get a refund for the money we paid ...

Post by **Foo** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 7:59 pm

Meh, the single player was fine.

IMo they should have done JUST a single player. Perhaps focusing solely on it and stating that there would not have been any multiplayer at all would have led to a more polished game, a longer singleplayer campaign, and above all a lot less dissapointment from us lot.

Post by **Bueller** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:30 pm

Foo wrote:Meh, the single player was fine.

IMo they should have done JUST a single player. Perhaps focusing solely on it and stating that there would not have been any multiplayer at all would have led to a more polished game, a longer singleplayer campaign, and above all a lot less dissapointment from us lot.

It has single player? Hadn't noticed.

Post by **Foo** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 8:36 pm

Therein lies much of the issue, everyone expected solid multiplayer. Even moreso after D3 failed to deliver.