Cyclops cat

Post by **prince1000** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:11 am

kracus, dead to the world

Post by **prince1000** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:11 am

and poor kitty

Post by **werldhed** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:14 am

AmIdYfReAk wrote:yea, radiation is a form of polution.

I feel that everything that a person does, anything that happeneds to them will allways leave a lasting impression on that person or there offspring. there is no way around it.

i would actually like to see the birth defect ratio's between cat's in a little more wild area's ( i.e. up north, ) And in suburbia.

it would be interesting to say the least.

knowing what we are doing to everyone else, and we ofcorse dont care because we are getting things done our way, for us. ( i.e. driving your self to work )

Now, in the same respect, i am not siding with pitta and all of those people, But they are making valid points in some respect, and some that are just... Uhhh, yea..

taking a look at what we are, and what we are doing to the earth and all of its host's would be an interesting thing, we dont know alot about our planet and what we have done to it.. but i beleve we are slowly starting to find out.

i am in southern ontario, and we usually get a few good months of atleast a little snow, and i have to say, this year, we had a green X-mas, and the actuall snow was on the ground for ~5-6 weeks, and then it would lightly snow in the earlymornings and dry before ~10am.

What is going to happen in 3 generations? are we going to need to explain what snow is to our children's children?

anyway, i will stop ranbling, its just somthing that is quite a thing to think of. its easy to look forward and ignore stuff that you wont/dont want to see and continue moving.. But what happeneds in your wake is just as important as what is infront of you.

I agree -- there is no doubt that pollution, toxins, medicine, and lifestyles cause an increase in birth defects, as well as general poor health. My point was just that cyclopia isn't really all that abnormal in a naturally-occuring sense.

Yes, radiation is a form of pollution, but most people are exposed to far more radiation from the sun and the earth than by other sources. Another cause of trisomy (a cause of cyclopia and Downs syndrome) is old mothers. So, pollution can be a factor, but I don't think that this single case is reason for people to be too put off. I'd bet hundreds of malformed fetuses are miscarried every year due to defects. That doesn't even count how often it occurs in animals.

Cyclopia has been studied for hundreds of years, so it's nothing new. More worrisome things are high birth defects that are new to our time in history -- such as the large number of deformed frogs that are popping up all over. That's something to be worried about.

And I know how the green xmas goes -- I'm in Minnesota. I've had a white xmas and cold winters all my life, and then the past 5 years have been quite warm. It rained on xmas this year, ffs. It sucks...

Post by **prince1000** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 5:18 am

Post by **Geebs** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:48 am

If DNA breakage is such a new thing, how come we have DNA repair enzymes? MORON ALERT

Post by **S@M** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:59 am

how come Kracus is teh only one in this thread that understands global warming?
MORONS ALERT

Post by **Geebs** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 7:00 am

Statistics. A coin can only land on it's head so many times; in the same way, Kracus was only dropped on his head so many times.

Post by **Transient** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 8:01 am

Kracus wrote:lol global warming doesn't mean it's gonig to stop snowing dude, it means there's probably going to be more, and more often, and colder.

If you're referring to the thermohaline circulation shutting down due to reduced salinity (caused by a rise in heat making freshwater more rapidly flow into the ocean via melting of glaciers and whatnot), that's an extreme theory. More likely than not the earth will slowly and steadily warm up until the next Ice Age occurs (a few 100,000 years I believe).

edit: Thermohaline circulation = ocean water from warm areas of the world travels to cold areas of the world, keeping the water universally warm. If that stops, water gets really fucking cold in some parts of the world and freezes over, causing a chain reaction near-ice age.

Post by **Ryoki** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:01 am

S@M wrote:how come Kracus is teh only one in this thread that understands global warming?
MORONS ALERT

Word.
It's rare, but he's completely right.

Post by **MKJ** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 9:48 am

Transient wrote:
Kracus wrote:lol global warming doesn't mean it's gonig to stop snowing dude, it means there's probably going to be more, and more often, and colder.
If you're referring to the thermohaline circulation shutting down due to reduced salinity (caused by a rise in heat making freshwater more rapidly flow into the ocean via melting of glaciers and whatnot), that's an extreme theory. More likely than not the earth will slowly and steadily warm up until the next Ice Age occurs (a few 100,000 years I believe).

edit: Thermohaline circulation = ocean water from warm areas of the world travels to cold areas of the world, keeping the water universally warm. If that stops, water gets really fucking cold in some parts of the world and freezes over, causing a chain reaction near-ice age.

that was what i thought he was referring to, too

Post by **Ryoki** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:17 am

The global warming effect speeds up the thermohaline circulation shutting down thing though, right?

Post by **eepberries** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:22 am

Transient wrote:
Kracus wrote:lol global warming doesn't mean it's gonig to stop snowing dude, it means there's probably going to be more, and more often, and colder.
If you're referring to the thermohaline circulation shutting down due to reduced salinity (caused by a rise in heat making freshwater more rapidly flow into the ocean via melting of glaciers and whatnot), that's an extreme theory. More likely than not the earth will slowly and steadily warm up until the next Ice Age occurs (a few 100,000 years I believe).

edit: Thermohaline circulation = ocean water from warm areas of the world travels to cold areas of the world, keeping the water universally warm. If that stops, water gets really fucking cold in some parts of the world and freezes over, causing a chain reaction near-ice age.

Hasn't it been showing signs of slowing lately though? (I say lately in the sense of the years after "christ", not like the past few months)

Post by **Transient** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:43 am

No more than geologists say is part of the normal cycle of the earth's climate, to my knowledge.

Post by **Transient** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:45 am

Ryoki wrote:The global warming effect speeds up the thermohaline circulation shutting down thing though, right?

Global warming doesn't directly affect the deep water. It's the melting glaciers and other forms of freshwater mixing with the ocean water that slows down the flow of the deep water.

This is what I get from the minor reading I've done, so I could be mistaken. I'd look it up to know for sure.

Post by **S@M** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 12:22 pm

finished reading Bill Brysons a short history of everything a few months ago, the book suggests we may be on the tail end of a still receeding ice age atm....
not sure how u split direct and indirect effects there transient, but as long as it helps makes sense. Stuffed if i can figure it out.

Post by **werldhed** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:54 pm

Bill Bryson... I take what he says with a grain of salt. For instance, in another book he also suggests global warming is causing the death of forests in north america.

And global warming does indeed result in an increase in temperature. You guys are mixing it up with global climate change, which is a result of general temerature increases around the world.

Post by **werldhed** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 1:55 pm

Geebs wrote:If DNA breakage is such a new thing, how come we have DNA repair enzymes? MORON ALERT

Is that directed at me? Because I never said DNA breakage was a new thing...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 2:46 pm

Yeah everything I say is always wrong, even when I'm right lol.

Post by **Freakaloin** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:09 pm

Kracus wrote:Yeah everything I say is always wrong, even when I'm right lol.

at least u know ur a moron...

Post by **MKJ** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:09 pm

unlike geoff

Post by **Freakaloin** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:12 pm

yeah tru that...i ain't no moron...

Post by **reefsurfer** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 3:30 pm

AmIdYfReAk wrote:dosent this kinda set somthing off for you guys?

there IS a reason for all of the berth defects that anyone/anything is experancing.

:/

Yea!!..just look at Halle berry and her 6 toe's.. now that's some scary shit!
Keep it in the circus..FREAK!

Post by **Geebs** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 6:00 pm

werldhed wrote:
Geebs wrote:If DNA breakage is such a new thing, how come we have DNA repair enzymes? MORON ALERT
Is that directed at me? Because I never said DNA breakage was a new thing...

No, just the morons on the "ooh look at all the pollution we are all going to be mutants" trip...

Post by **AmIdYfReAk** » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:10 pm

reefsurfer wrote:
AmIdYfReAk wrote:dosent this kinda set somthing off for you guys?

there IS a reason for all of the berth defects that anyone/anything is experancing.

:/
Yea!!..just look at Halle berry and her 6 toe's.. now that's some scary shit!
Keep it in the circus..FREAK!

does she really? :0

i'de still tap it