Quake3World

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:47 pm**

all those numbers r prolly just deaths...most weren't killed...they just died from typhoid or what not...along with germans and everyone else too...

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:55 pm**

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Jules, fwiw Finklestein thinks Raul Hillberg is the definitive scholar on the Holocaust. (this gleaned from reading and from his lecture)

yep - i remember that lecture, which is why i brought this up.

Here's hilberg:

Raul Hilberg, author of the classic THE DESTRUCTION OF THE EUROPEAN JEWS, is the world's leading authority on the Nazi holocaust. A Brazilian journalist, Carlos Haag, questioned him about my new book. Below is Hilberg's reply:

Today he is rather unpopular and his book will certainly not become a best seller, but what it says is basically true even though incomplete. It is more a journalistic account than an in depth study on the topic, which would need to be much longer. To say that the Holocaust has been used in order to secure Palestine for the Jews is nothing new and we know how important it was in the creation of Israel. Nevertheless it will be a bitter yet necessary reminder to the community. He is also right when he argues that nobody talked about this topic in the USA: in 1968 a well known local encyclopedia asked me to write an article on the Holocaust and they only wanted me to talk about Dachau and Buchenwald because they were not interested in Auschwitz; these topics were censored. I agree with him that people overestimate the number of survivors and that the concept itself is ill-defined - it includes not only the victims of the camps - and it is true that there an exaggerated number of compensation requests are made. There is something radically wrong in this exploitation because it is an issue that should not be used to make money and I must confess that I found the whole affair with the Swiss banks disturbing. The Jewish-American community is very prosperous and there is no reason for them to ask the Swiss for money. That seems obscene to me.

more here:

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/article.php?pg=3&ar=5

though i dunno what finkelstein has to say about the number of surviviors.

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2005 11:42 pm**

U MAKE AWESOME THREADS GEOFF!

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 12:11 am**

A pissed off Jew owned this thread

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 2:23 am**

speaking of math, I'm going back over calculus again...need to get my calc skills down again so I can appreciate some of the formulas in my string theory books and whatnot.

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:11 am**

I was tired when I read this and thought the topic was "jews and meth". How disappointing.

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:11 pm**

Freakaloin wrote:any moron knows that the number of dead jews by nazis was over reporter for jew sympathy for decades...thats a fact...even jews know it...so don't be a moron...

u are a cunt, but i would have to agree with u..

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:20 pm**

tnf wrote:speaking of math, I'm going back over calculus again...need to get my calc skills down again so I can appreciate some of the formulas in my string theory books and whatnot.

What's the point of that stupid sig tnf?

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:36 pm**

That if you believe the earth is round, yuo support hitler.

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:42 pm**

the world is a sphere...not round...moron alert?...

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:44 pm**

ok goof.

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 4:45 pm**

fuck u...

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:03 pm**

tnf wrote:That if you believe the earth is round, yuo support hitler.

I'm still not getting it...

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:11 pm**

KLANG KLANG KLANG WENT THE TROLLEY........

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 5:16 pm**

duh!! if you're not with us you're against us.

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:23 pm**

Freakaloin wrote:i think the number is closer to 1-2 million...but most died from typhoid...soviets died more...

goddam you're stupid. so how many Jews died of typhoid and how many non- Jewish Germans died of typhoid?

Were the imprisoned, half starved Jews able to go to a doctor?

Just goes to show that geoff will believe anything he reads on the internet.

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:24 pm**

Kracus wrote:
tnf wrote:That if you believe the earth is round, yuo support hitler.
I'm still not getting it...

noone is surprised

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:29 pm**

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:i think the number is closer to 1-2 million...but most died from typhoid...soviets died more...
Were the imprisoned, half starved Jews able to go to a doctor?

not that it has any bearing on the numbers, but doctors couldn't do a damn thing about typhoid back then - although nutrition would have had an impact.

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:30 pm**

wow ur a moron puff...all i say is true but it doesn't change the holocaust one little bit...it still happened and it was bad...but morons use it for more sympathy for jews...and u play right along...the jews love idiots like u...

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:45 pm**

Geebs wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:i think the number is closer to 1-2 million...but most died from typhoid...soviets died more...
Were the imprisoned, half starved Jews able to go to a doctor?
not that it has any bearing on the numbers, but doctors couldn't do a damn thing about typhoid back then - although nutrition would have had an impact.

i'm waiting to see geoof's numbers with a source. let's see if the same proportion of germans to total german population died.

of course this shit is way above geoof's head so I don't exactly expect him to get it.

anyway you're wrong geoof. over 2 million died in the gas chambers. if you want to refute that then let's see you back up your claims.

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:48 pm**

it doesn't really matter how many died when it cums to those numbers...but i'm sure 80% of the deaths were from disease and what not...

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:53 pm**

Freakaloin wrote:it doesn't really matter how many died when it cums to those numbers...but i'm sure 80% of the deaths were from disease and what not...

oh good call on making this thread then

again let's see your neo nazi source cus that's all you've got

retard

edit: let me explain why the numbers matter... if you claim 80% of the Jewish deaths are from disease 'and whatnot' (starvation and being worked to death maybe?) and then you look at the proportion of total european jews who didn't escape to freedom, those who died to those who lived, and you want to claim that Germans died in the same numbers or proportion I think you'll find that 20 or 30 million Germans should have died from disease (and does 'whatnot' apply to them even?) guess what geoff, that many germans didn't die from disease. your claim is bullshit.

Can't follow that? moron alert?

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 10:56 pm**

protocols of zion

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:03 pm**

indeed

Posted: **Sun Dec 11, 2005 11:09 pm**

no i never said anything about germans dying in the same numbers...but in the concentration camps the germans were dying in large numbers from typhoid...but go ahead making up stories about claims i have made and what not...good stuff to laff at...

Quake3World

jews and math...