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Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:35 am
by [xeno]Julios
Maiden wrote:pesticide
right, but what sort of experiments are they gonna do?
they gonna stick kids in glass chambers and see how much pesticide it takes to kill them?
what substances are they gonna test and how?
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:39 am
by AmIdYfReAk
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:that's it. Canada, here i come.
beter.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:42 am
by -Replicant-
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:-Replicant- wrote:look at the date on it...
nov 17th
whoops, the way its formatted it looks like december :P
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:51 am
by Maiden
[xeno]Julios wrote:Maiden wrote:pesticide
right, but what sort of experiments are they gonna do?
they gonna stick kids in glass chambers and see how much pesticide it takes to kill them?
what substances are they gonna test and how?
dont know what they want to do, but i think most of the testing in the past has the pesticides injested. I think it is all done in pretty small amounts since they are looking for a level where they can first begin to see effect so they know how much of this crap they can put in our food.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:32 am
by bitWISE
Clones would be perfect for testing IMO
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:00 am
by Canidae
This is weird. When I woke up this morning I was thinking of posting a thread here called "When did America go wrong?"
I even talked to someone about what it was going to be about.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:06 am
by +JuggerNaut+
bitWISE wrote:Clones would be perfect for testing IMO
yes, because they're not human and therefore, disposable. do i really need to finish with the icon? no.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:09 am
by Dukester
SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: This proposed rule, the first of several possible Agency actions, would significantly strengthen the ethical framework for conducting and reviewing human studies, especially intentional dosing human studies for pesticides.
Did anyone actually read the document at
http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-GENERAL ... g18010.htm
or did you just read the
http://www.organicconsumers.org/epa6.cfm
just wondering?
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:20 am
by Guest
Just test it on people who want to be tested on and pay them money. Like trailor trash.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:42 am
by Maiden
thats what they have been doing
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:49 am
by Guest
AWSOME!!!! Eugenics here we come!
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 3:11 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
image by meshuggah (the q3 playa some of you know)
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:20 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
'Cheney is vice president for torture'
11.35PM, Thu Nov 17 2005
A former CIA director has exclusively told ITV News that torture is condoned and even approved by the Bush government.
The devastating accusations have been made by Admiral Stansfield Turner who labelled Dick Cheney "a vice president for torture".
He said: "We have crossed the line into dangerous territory".
The American Senate says torture should be banned - whatever the justification. But President Bush has threatened to veto their ruling.
The former spymaster claims President Bush is not telling the truth when he says that torture is not a method used by the US.
Speaking of Bush's claims that the US does not use torture, Admiral Turner, who ran the CIA from 1977 to 1981, said: "I do not believe him".
On Dick Cheney he said "I'm embarrassed the United States has a vice president for torture.
"He condones torture, what else is he?".
Admiral Turner claims the secret CIA prisons used for torture are known as 'black sites', terror suspects are picked up in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan.
They are flown by CIA-controlled private aircraft to countries where there are secret interrogation centres, operating outside any country's jurisdiction.
No one will confirm their locations, but there are several possibilities: The Mihail-Kogalniceanu military airbase in Romania is believed by many to be one such facility.
Admiral Turner's remarks were echoed by Republican Senator John McCain, himself a victim of torture in Vietnam.
He said torturing to get information was immoral, was not effective and encouraged potential enemies to do the same to Americans.
Both Mr Bush and Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice have repeatedly stated that torture by US forces is not condoned.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:24 am
by Massive Quasars
Puff, on this point even many high profile conservative bloggers seem to agree. The Bush admin. tacitly approves of torture.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:26 am
by HM-PuFFNSTuFF
Massive Quasars wrote:Puff, on this point many high profile conservative bloggers seem to agree. The Bush admin. tacitly approves of torture.
do they have a have a problem with it?
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 4:27 am
by Massive Quasars
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
do they have a have a problem with it?
Many do... some don't.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:02 am
by Canidae
Do you really believe Bush is the first American leader who says one thing and does another?
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:36 am
by Chupacabra
i dont think so. course i also dont think getting a bj is as bad as TORTURING PEOPLE.
Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:57 am
by menkent
try picturing monica lewinsky naked. you might reconsider. :fugly: