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Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:32 pm
by Tormentius
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
problem is MS, or XP rather, probably already has something buried that sends information out.

Are you talking about error reporting?

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:36 pm
by +JuggerNaut+
Tormentius wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
problem is MS, or XP rather, probably already has something buried that sends information out.

Are you talking about error reporting?
no, since that's only sending out if you agree. not trying to pull a conpiracist theory here or anything. only guessing.

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:41 pm
by lars63
Thanks :)

Posted: Thu Nov 17, 2005 11:51 pm
by Tormentius
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
no, since that's only sending out if you agree. not trying to pull a conpiracist theory here or anything. only guessing.

AFAIK it doesn't but a network monitor and some logging could prove or disprove that.

Re: Windows Genuine Advantage can now work in Firefox :o

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:45 am
by seremtan
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:finally Microsoft opens its eyes if for just a little bit.

wga plugin

Diagnostic page

or click me
ok i'm dense. what does this actually do? tell me if my copy of windows is legit? i already know it is

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 12:48 am
by AmIdYfReAk
its more like proving it to microwank that it is, so you can download updates as well as other microwank software.

Also, there are allready workarounds out for Firefox inreguards to this, and theyve been out for months now. easly.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:04 am
by +JuggerNaut+
AmIdYfReAk wrote: Also, there are allready workarounds out for Firefox inreguards to this, and theyve been out for months now. easly.
duh, but you're missing the point. Microsoft acknowledges that alot of people are now using FF, so they implemented the plug-in for those users. it's a good move.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:12 am
by mik0rs
And I was subtly saying that I may well be running a not-so-legit copy of Windows XP on my machine. Anf that acknowledgement thing is cool, but I'd be happy if Firefox users (myself included in that group) remained in the large minority.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:21 am
by bitWISE
Here's an interesting thought...most malware coders seem to target Microsoft products. So lets say that in 10 years they finally get us all to convert to Linux and Firefox. Do the coders now trash their own sandbox on princable?

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:21 am
by Tormentius
AmIdYfReAk wrote:its more like proving it to microwank that it is, so you can download updates as well as other microwank software.

Also, there are allready workarounds out for Firefox inreguards to this, and theyve been out for months now. easly.
Yeah they now ask you to prove that you legitimately purchased the software they have spent many billions developing. The horror!

:p

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:22 am
by Tormentius
bitWISE wrote:Here's an interesting point...most malware coders seem to target Microsoft products. So lets say that in 10 years they finally get us all to convert to Linux and Firefox. Do the coders now trash their own sandbox on princable?
Firefox had more vulnerabilities than IE in the past year so its definitely not perfect either. As the percentage of users increase, so will the amount of attacks targetting it.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 1:58 am
by seremtan
AmIdYfReAk wrote:its more like proving it to microwank that it is, so you can download updates as well as other microwank software.

Also, there are allready workarounds out for Firefox inreguards to this, and theyve been out for months now. easly.
i seem to recall doing this when i first got the PC, online, and i've never had an issue with updates

seems pointless to me

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:03 am
by +JuggerNaut+
bitWISE wrote: Do the coders now trash their own sandbox on princable?
lol, are you assuming that most malware coders are using linux/unix for their main OS? microsoft gets picked on because it's the most popular, that's it.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 2:09 am
by AmIdYfReAk
Tormentius wrote:
AmIdYfReAk wrote:its more like proving it to microwank that it is, so you can download updates as well as other microwank software.

Also, there are allready workarounds out for Firefox inreguards to this, and theyve been out for months now. easly.
Yeah they now ask you to prove that you legitimately purchased the software they have spent many billions developing. The horror!

:p
i know! those bastards! :)

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 5:53 am
by Psyche911
Who cares (about FF working with WGA)?
If I format, I can use IE to verify my Windows copy since I probably haven't downloaded and installed FireFox again yet.

After that, I have auto-update on so I just get a notification when it's ready to install an update. I never open IE to update.

And before SP2 when I didn't use auto-update, I launched IE once a month or so to check for updates. Not a big deal at all.

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2005 6:00 am
by +JuggerNaut+
Psyche911 wrote:Who cares (about FF working with WGA)?
If I format, I can use IE to verify my Windows copy since I probably haven't downloaded and installed FireFox again yet.

After that, I have auto-update on so I just get a notification when it's ready to install an update. I never open IE to update.

And before SP2 when I didn't use auto-update, I launched IE once a month or so to check for updates. Not a big deal at all.
yes because everyone else does it JUST LIKE THAT.