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Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:39 pm
by Canis
Well there you have it...
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 8:44 pm
by r3t
^misantropia^ wrote:Meh. CS bachelors in the Netherlands only make E 25,000, E 30,000 tops ($30,000-$35,000) during their first few years. While the cost of living is roughly comparable to the States. It might be bit different in other European countries but not too different, I think.
Time to move, perhaps...
yep I know (from experience no less). A 50k starter salary is unheard of in any branch in the Netherlands though.
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:23 pm
by plained
Canis wrote:Well there you have it...
glad you feel better, not your fault
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:51 pm
by Canis
plained wrote:Canis wrote:Well there you have it...
glad you feel better, not your fault
Snickers bars just might do you good. Learn to love'em.
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:58 pm
by plained
im already great, but ty for your concern.
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:01 pm
by Canis
You're but words on a webpage to me.
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:03 pm
by plained
but , just, might,.. come on
have some confidence in your self man y0
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:16 pm
by Canis
Poor you, I almost feel sorry...
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:18 pm
by plained
well im far from poor,but dont let me stop you from feeling sorry
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:30 pm
by Canis
"poor" in this sense has nothing do to with financial well-being.
Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 10:35 pm
by plained
"far from poor" in this instance has nothing to do with financial well being
i have it all tho, rofl
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:01 am
by YourGrandpa
The wife and I just got raises, on the same.
Total monthly income increase of $1,265.00.
Not bad. :icon31:
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:04 am
by Dave
Of course someone else is taking care of your kid so you can both make enough to live your lifestyle. Welcome to the American dream
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:07 am
by andyman
YourGrandpa wrote:The wife and I just got raises, on the same.
Total monthly income increase of $1,265.00.
Not bad. :icon31:
your increase is about what i get for cash a month...all the rest goes to accounts that auto pay.
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:11 am
by YourGrandpa
Dave wrote:Of course someone else is taking care of your kid so you can both make enough to live your lifestyle. Welcome to the American dream
My son attends an acadamy right down the street from both of our offices. So it's not too bad. Though it would be nice to make enough money for us to live like we do and have the wife stay home or vise versa.
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:13 am
by YourGrandpa
andyman wrote:YourGrandpa wrote:The wife and I just got raises, on the same.
Total monthly income increase of $1,265.00.
Not bad. :icon31:
your increase is about what i get for cash a month...all the rest goes to accounts that auto pay.
Things always get better if you're constantly striving to reach the top.
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:20 am
by andyman
We use pay tables, so basically it just takes time to get more money. plus my life is kinda expensive for my salary
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:57 am
by bitWISE
andyman wrote:YourGrandpa wrote:The wife and I just got raises, on the same.
Total monthly income increase of $1,265.00.
Not bad. :icon31:
your increase is about what i get for cash a month...all the rest goes to accounts that auto pay.
No doubt. I don't make much than that after taxes. Can't wait for that to change.
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 6:21 am
by Canis
YourGrandpa wrote:The wife and I just got raises, on the same.
Total monthly income increase of $1,265.00.
Not bad. :icon31:
I read that fast, and saw "Total monthly income of $1265"...
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:39 pm
by plained
yea trouble reading as i said before, nothing new there.
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:40 pm
by plained
YourGrandpa wrote:The wife and I just got raises, on the same.
Total monthly income increase of $1,265.00.
Not bad. :icon31:
well im sure when you finaly get some time to spend with your kid, you will minimize it so you can play your vid games good job
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:54 pm
by Underpants?
Dr_Watson wrote:well.. rule 1 for getting more money is spelling salary correctly
colon-cock-and-ball-colon
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 4:56 pm
by YourGrandpa
plained wrote:YourGrandpa wrote:The wife and I just got raises, on the same.
Total monthly income increase of $1,265.00.
Not bad. :icon31:
well im sure when you finaly get some time to spend with your kid, you will minimize it so you can play your vid games good job
Slow down there, it's not good to assume.
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:06 pm
by YourGrandpa
Hey look eveyone, I've got a new fan.
Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 8:17 pm
by hax103
I'd suggest thinking about:
- Ask urself what skills/experience makes you distinctive in your profession? i.e. prior experience, major role in well known open-source projects, etc.
- The cost of living in the area is very important which means nation-wide statistics are often useless and misleading. i.e. a salary of $70,000 in one place can be much better than a $100,000 in another place which is notably expensive (i.e. Manhattan).
- Are you good at "on-the-fly" coding? If so, you should seriously consider a first job at a place like Google, M$, etc. Google for example actually encourages open-source involvement and officially even gives you a day/week just for ur fun projects. They will be happy to fly you out and quiz you with programming puzzles. If you are top tier they will offer very nice salaries.
- Most salary hunting is simply figuring out - what would another company pay you? Having one or more written offers from other companies can be of great assistance in a salary negotiation.
- Keep in mind that it typically costs a company 10X the salary to find a replacement. Job hunting and job filling is quite hard to do and the companies are aware of this.