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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:35 am
by Chupacabra
R00k wrote:Great, way to drive off more customers guys. :icon14:

You know I was thinking about the whole DRM/RIAA/WAREZZORZZ issue a couple days ago and I realized something.

The RIAA has switched tacks on this right in the middle. They are making this an intellectual rights issue, and are saying that the grounds for prosecution of downloading music is because it is stealing intellectual property.

My question is - where were they 10 years ago, when I had to buy a Metallica CD 5 times? I don't remember any options saying that, since I had paid for the use of the intellectual property, that I could get a replacement CD for the cost of manufacturing the CD.

There were a lot of albums that I would buy, wear out, buy again, rinse and repeat, because CDs were damaged so easily.
:!:

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:40 am
by +JuggerNaut+
R00k wrote:There were a lot of albums that I would buy, wear out, buy again, rinse and repeat, because CDs were damaged so easily.
what? someone doesn't use jewel cases or caselogic type cd books. the problem was MUCH worse with *gasp* tapes.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:43 am
by Iccy (temp)
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:copy/paste central




source
So ?

I wrote a whole article on it for the company, just made it simple for both of us. /shrug

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:46 am
by +JuggerNaut+
'sall good, just like when people post where they got there information from so we can look at whatever else might be of interest in that article/page.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 12:50 am
by f00dl3
I bet that that page gets shut down, along with their software program, for circumventing copy protection - and I bet they get sued for violating the DMCA. Probably just as fast as Switchfoot took their circumvention tip off of their site.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:45 am
by R00k
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
R00k wrote:There were a lot of albums that I would buy, wear out, buy again, rinse and repeat, because CDs were damaged so easily.
what? someone doesn't use jewel cases or caselogic type cd books. the problem was MUCH worse with *gasp* tapes.
To reply to your statement, my casette tapes always held up longer than CDs. You could throw a casette in the floorboard and have 50 people step on it while getting in and out of the car without damaging it.

Aside from it being purely opinion though, that wasn't my point at all. This is only about intellectual property rights because they were forced to find a justification for their response to their perceived damages. They never gave two shits about intellectual property until they found a way to charge for it.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:49 am
by +JuggerNaut+
R00k wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
R00k wrote:There were a lot of albums that I would buy, wear out, buy again, rinse and repeat, because CDs were damaged so easily.
what? someone doesn't use jewel cases or caselogic type cd books. the problem was MUCH worse with *gasp* tapes.
To reply to your statement, my casette tapes always held up longer than CDs. You could throw a casette in the floorboard and have 50 people step on it while getting in and out of the car without damaging it.

Aside from it being purely opinion though, that wasn't my point at all. This is only about intellectual property rights because they were forced to find a justification for their response to their perceived damages. They never gave two shits about intellectual property until they found a way to charge for it.
oh i totally agree with your post other than the "wear" of a cd. still don't agree with you on that :rtcw:

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:50 am
by R00k
Well I don't agree with cute bunnies getting their ears sliced off. >:E

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:54 am
by +JuggerNaut+
don't fret. he's used to it.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 1:56 am
by Survivor
R00k wrote:Well I don't agree with cute bunnies getting their ears sliced off. >:E
It grows back. It always does.

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 3:08 am
by +JuggerNaut+
Survivor wrote:
R00k wrote:Well I don't agree with cute bunnies getting their ears sliced off. >:E
It grows back. It always does.
\o/

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:26 am
by Mat Linnett
Regarding wear on CDs, I have some that I've treated incredibly well, some not even having had that many plays.
Yet I go back to them now, in some cases 10 or more years since last playing them, in order to rip them to MP3.
A worrying amount of them have started to "flake", the reflective material peeling off of the plastic.
In such cases, yer damn right I'm going to download them again (if I can find them).

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:57 am
by +JuggerNaut+
Mat Linnett wrote:Regarding wear on CDs, I have some that I've treated incredibly well, some not even having had that many plays.
Yet I go back to them now, in some cases 10 or more years since last playing them, in order to rip them to MP3.
A worrying amount of them have started to "flake", the reflective material peeling off of the plastic.
In such cases, yer damn right I'm going to download them again (if I can find them).
.flac them and archive them before it's too late!

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 7:57 am
by dzjepp
No .ogg them!

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:01 am
by glossy
LAME! LAME!

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2005 8:04 am
by +JuggerNaut+
.flac for archive, compression for portable.

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2005 12:16 am
by Underpants?
Nightshade wrote:
Underpants? wrote:ho ho, you're just a tub of hairless hilarity today aren't you, shitgrape?
Need some novocaine for that nerve there, Bob?
Make your sister an honest man yet, Cooter?

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:28 pm
by Fender
LOL you can use the root kit to bypass DRM

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?si ... 9&from=rss
Also on this topic, Matt Nikki in the comments section discovered that the DRM can be bypassed simply by renaming your favourite ripping program with "$sys$" at the start of the filename and ripping the CD using this file, which is now undetectable even by the Sony DRM. You can use the Sony rootkit itself to bypass their own DRM!"

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:52 pm
by R00k
:olo: :olo: :olo:

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:53 pm
by mrd
Fender wrote:LOL you can use the root kit to bypass DRM

http://games.slashdot.org/article.pl?si ... 9&from=rss
Also on this topic, Matt Nikki in the comments section discovered that the DRM can be bypassed simply by renaming your favourite ripping program with "$sys$" at the start of the filename and ripping the CD using this file, which is now undetectable even by the Sony DRM. You can use the Sony rootkit itself to bypass their own DRM!"
haha...I bet the dipshits at Sony didn't see that one comin'.

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 7:04 pm
by Iccy (temp)
:olo:

Self ownt, i love it.