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And all the adware/spyware anybody wants to write destroys it.

Firefox has some SERIOUS problems running certain kinds of ActiveX/JScript pages (e.g. running pages off the webserver on an IP Camera). CPU usage shoots up to a constant 50% on a machine with a hyper-threaded processor and 100% on a machine with a normal processor. IE doesn't have this problem.

Other than that, I'm pretty happy with Firefox.

if you're going to use IE why not use MyIE2

Yea, I consider it a small price to pay for a good browser, since I always have shitty IE to fall back on for things that don't seem to be compatible.

Just use ie when needed and firefox for all, it's not the browsers fault but people who use frontpage and then don't check how it looks on other browsers.

FlamingTP wrote:IE: free, built in, no work.

Firefox: free, 1 install, MUCH less vulnerabilities, hence less work in the long run.

dzjepp wrote:Maxthon is where it's at.

/signed


Been using Maxthon (Myie2) Since it was beta.. ill never switch back..

What are the advantages of Maxthon when compared to Firefox?

SplishSplash wrote:What are the advantages of Maxthon when compared to Firefox?

well..

You know how firefox fucks up some websites, maxthon dont.. thats about it..

maxthon has all the same shit firefox does.. maybe minus the google mail toolbar thing.. dunno tho, i dont use and wouldnt use something like that..

riddla wrote:IE7 will be out soon and I'll bet money it steals all the best features found in the alternatives.

Why should anything change? M$ was built on stealing ideas.

denzii wrote:

riddla wrote:IE7 will be out soon and I'll bet money it steals all the best features found in the alternatives.

Why should anything change? M$ was built on stealing ideas.

hey im ok with them stealing the ideas.. less 3rd party shit i have to install.. im a M$ whore..

That's a great way of looking at it.

SplishSplash wrote:

FlamingTP wrote:IE: free, built in, no work.

Firefox: free, 1 install, MUCH less vulnerabilities, hence less work in the long run.

Thats only because FF has a very small market share. As that share gets larger watch their code get hacked as bad as IE's ever was. Its not more secure, its just not a large enough target.

R00k wrote:I love Firefox. Once I adjusted the network settings, it loads pages just as fast as IE ever did, and I don't have to have 3rd party software to stop popups.

SP2++ I used to use Google's blocker but the built-in one with SP2 does a better job.

Mozilla patches their exploits much quicker than MS, though.

PhoeniX wrote:Mozilla patches their exploits much quicker than MS, though.

Mozilla also doesn't bother with a fraction of the compatibility testing which MS goes through :icon1:

You mean the compatibility testing that results in not being able to render the majority ofthe W3C standards?

SOAPboy wrote:

denzii wrote:

riddla wrote:IE7 will be out soon and I'll bet money it steals all the best features found in the alternatives.

Why should anything change? M$ was built on stealing ideas.

hey im ok with them stealing the ideas.. less 3rd party shit i have to install.. im a M$ whore..

OH NO!!! MS stealing money from Mozilla!!!!

Wait both are free, so it is better for everyone if competition helps competition

4g3nt_Smith wrote:You mean the compatibility testing that results in not being able to render the majority ofthe W3C standards?

i think we all know that you hate everything about MS, ok? You are like the people that keep telling me I am going to hell for not being Christian, and it gets annoying.

Kills On Site wrote:

4g3nt_Smith wrote:You mean the compatibility testing that results in not being able to render the majority ofthe W3C standards?

i think we all know that you hate everything about MS, ok? You are like the people that keep telling me I am going to hell for not being Christian, and it gets annoying.

Actually that is my main complaint about IE as well. IE7 is supposed to fix this though.

4g3nt_Smith wrote:You mean the compatibility testing that results in not being able to render the majority ofthe W3C standards?

Well since they have the vast majority of the market the reality of the situation is that MS defines what is standard. I'm not saying its right, but thats the way it is.

Tormentius wrote:

4g3nt_Smith wrote:You mean the compatibility testing that results in not being able to render the majority ofthe W3C standards?

Well since they have the vast majority of the market the reality of the situation is that MS defines what is standard. I'm not saying its right, but thats the way it is.

But that is changing. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon enough Microsoft won't be the majority anymore.

edit: I'm migrating away from MS a bit at a time. Not abandoning it mind you, just not going to be so dependant on them.

Scourge wrote:

Tormentius wrote:

4g3nt_Smith wrote:You mean the compatibility testing that results in not being able to render the majority ofthe W3C standards?

Well since they have the vast majority of the market the reality of the situation is that MS defines what is standard. I'm not saying its right, but thats the way it is.

But that is changing. Maybe not tomorrow, but soon enough Microsoft won't be the majority anymore.

edit: I'm migrating away from MS a bit at a time. Not abandoning it mind you, just not going to be so dependant on them.

I think MS will maintain majority for quite some time, but I believe that they are now more compleled to follow standards.

There are lots of reasons for MS to become 100% W3C compliant. They will be with IE7.

Tormentius wrote:Thats only because FF has a very small market share. As that share gets larger watch their code get hacked as bad as IE's ever was. Its not more secure, its just not a large enough target.

As much I like Microsoft, I'm gonna have to say that's a bullshit argument. Apache has a much larger market share for web servers compared to IIS, yet has far fewer and much less serious exploits for it out there. Microsoft has always been about user-friendliness and features as opposed to security and robustness.

There's been a trend at MS to focus more on security (and that has to be applauded for sure) after Bill Gates's recent memo on "trust-worthy computing" .. I suggest you read it as it's quite interesting.