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SplishSplash wrote:messing with drum and hate actually made me feel better.

I'm told SSRIs can take time (as much as 2-3 months?) before a noticeable effect is percieved. Some people go through a few meds before they find one that they stick to indefinitely.

It seems like this was a recent development, do you believe your depression and anxiety will persist?

4days, weren't you the one with the suicidal friend? How'd that work out? Was the situation resolved?

4days wrote: make an excuse to go see your doctor again and look at his pen this time. if it has the word 'citalopram' printed on it, stop taking the stuff.

He gave it to me for free. Yeah sure, maybe he's trying to get me hooked, but I never planned on taking this for very long anyway.

Massive Quasars wrote:It seems like this was a recent development, do you believe your depression and anxiety will persist?

I don't know really. I thought I would be fine when the new semester starts and I have people around me everyday, but now I doubt that's going to help. I made a point of seeing friends at least every other day during the last week and that hasn't really helped.

But I'm still 99% certain that isolation during the summer break caused this in the first place, even though it started so abruptly.
I didn't give a shit about other people and this is what it earned me. :icon26: Oh well, it can't last forever I guess.

Massive Quasars wrote:4days, weren't you the one with the suicidal friend? How'd that work out? Was the situation resolved?

aye, pretty well so far. yes

couldn't check him into the drunktank because apparently he wasn't drinking enough. the counsellor helpfully informed us that he needed to be on at least a bottle of whisky a day before they'd take him in.

luckily, the nuthouse were a little less stringent and decided that being completely batshit crazy was a fair reason for admission.

he's met a lass from there who's even more fucked up than he is and taken her under his wing. the responsibilty has really straightened him out - the responsibility, and bashing her cervix into jelly at regular intervals.

on a sidenote, i fucking hate 'crisis teams' with a passion.

Splish, it'll take about a fortnight for any clinical benefit with citalopram. I'd be pretty cagey about taking that stuff y'know - doctors hand them out like candy because they don't want to take the rap if they are seen not to do anything and then a patient goes and does something silly. If you're eating and sleeping OK at the moment, I'd probably stop that stuff. If you're not eating or your sleep pattern's disturbed, might be better to stick with this and get some counselling.

Oh, and don't take ephedrine as a study drug, benefits have never been clinically proven.

4days wrote:he's met a lass from there who's even more fucked up than he is and taken her under his wing. the responsibilty has really straightened him out - the responsibility, and bashing her cervix into jelly at regular intervals.

I've often said, the main reason why paroxetine cured my depression was that it gave me a pornstar semi and the ability to use it for hours on end

4days wrote: on a sidenote, i fucking hate 'crisis teams' with a passion.

Social workers in general are a pain in the arse; but sometimes you don't have any choice. I've had to call the crisis team out before to section acutely mentally ill people for their own protection, and given that the two doctors and a socal worker needed (yeah I know, varies with section) are by definition a crisis team, it's not like there's much alternative.

My sleep is disturbed, but I think the Citalopram causes it.

The problem is, without that stuff, I'm going crazy. On the other hand, today was so bad, I may go crazy anyway.

Edit:

Geebs wrote:Oh, and don't take ephedrine as a study drug, benefits have never been clinically proven.

Oh, it definitely works.

Without ephedrine: I can't look at a book for longer than 30 min.
With ephedrine: I can study for 6+ hours.


I'm going to get drunk and to a party tonight. I hope getting drunk won't help, or I may become alcoholic.

The FDA recently made drug companies here in the US add a warning to some anti-depressent labels stating that they may make you feel worse for the first few days you take the medications, particularly if you are young. Geebs or Saturn, would that drug fall in this category? If so, maybe you just have to ride out the icky part in the beginning.... Hope you feel better. Stare at some tits. Perky ones. That'll work.

hows your diet?

you are what you eat ey, really.

eat consistantly good for at least a week.

try no processed food.

baked potatoa and spinach and bocolli and steak.

couldt hurtcha anyways.

also you could bang more guys

Geebs wrote:

4days wrote: on a sidenote, i fucking hate 'crisis teams' with a passion.

Social workers in general are a pain in the arse; but sometimes you don't have any choice. I've had to call the crisis team out before to section acutely mentally ill people for their own protection, and given that the two doctors and a socal worker needed (yeah I know, varies with section) are by definition a crisis team, it's not like there's much alternative.

thought i'd deleted that line before i posted, because it was a bit harsh on reflection. i don't know how the system works but the doctor at the clinic and her social worker assistant were heroes.

the initial contact was a pair of ill-equipped retards with a 3-ring binder that just made the situation worse. they asked my mate stupid and irrelevant questions tactlessly enough to work him into a bit of a rage (and he's not an easy bloke to control when he gets going), then started arguing with each other. if those two were any less competent they'd quit the council and work in NTL tech support.

blimey, sorry for getting all verbose, haven't been able to speak to anyone around here about it so this place turned into a bit of a valve.

SplishSplash wrote:You can still buy the tea in pharmacies, but the clerks will give you dirty looks.

hm... do you need a prescription? / what's the name of the tea? / price?

btw: since when do you use ephedrine? maybe your anxiety and depressions are a sideeffect?

Just go and ask for "ephedra" tea.

I only used it for two weeks during my tests, and even then I only drank a cup every other day. Ephedra is more dangerous to your body than to your mind.

SplishSplash wrote:Ephedra is more dangerous to your body than to your mind.

Indeed.

4days wrote:the initial contact was a pair of ill-equipped retards with a 3-ring binder that just made the situation worse. they asked my mate stupid and irrelevant questions tactlessly enough to work him into a bit of a rage (and he's not an easy bloke to control when he gets going), then started arguing with each other. if those two were any less competent they'd quit the council and work in NTL tech support.

Yeah, it does depend on who you get. The problem with the psychiatric services is that as soon as any substance use is involved, the whole system breaks down. From my point of view in casualty it's incredibly frustrating, because I have intoxicated, often violent people running round my department breaking things and there's no-one in the hospital actually insured to perform any sort of personal restraint - i.e. if our security lay a finger on them, it's assault. I can't get any sort of psychiatric input until 1) it's business hours and 2) until the patient is sober (this also goes for people detoxing from heroin who have gone nuts). Obviously, the medical team don't want to admit them to be kept until they can see a psychiatrist; I don't want to admit them on the A&E ward because the nurses there have frequently allowed patients I felt were potentially suicidal simply to walk out.

I can understand why the psychs don't like to get involved because it's practically impossible to assess someone when they're intoxicated; the problem is that so many people with psychiatric problems are also substance users (don't get me started on the borderline personalities - god I hate those show-off cunts.....)

Hmm. This post did have a point, but the author has temporarily forgotten it

Ok, I've doubled the dose, I'm back at Uni, and i feel pretty good again. Let's hope it lasts.

BUT: Nobody told me this stuff would make me "anorgasmic"! My balls feel about as big as balloons!
RWARRRRGH!!! HGGNNNG!!!

Geebs wrote:I've often said, the main reason why paroxetine cured my depression was that it gave me a pornstar semi and the ability to use it for hours on end

I told you.

SplishSplash wrote:Nobody told me this stuff would make me "anorgasmic"! My balls feel about as big as balloons!
RWARRRRGH!!! HGGNNNG!!!

heh, I had the same side effect with citalopram/cipralex. In addition I enduringly had to yawn for weeks and in all was even more tired than without medication...after 3 months I quit that stuff.
Does paroxetine have the same side effects or is it vitally different?

paroxetine aka seroxat aka paxil often causes sexual dysfunction.

I remember reading one theory (though not from scholarly sources) that explained the anorgasmia as being due to the increased levels of serotonin in activation. I think orgasm needs a high difference potential of serotonin to reach threshold, and having a bunch of serotonin there to begin with doesn't leave much potential difference left to kick in orgasm.

Then it would be funny if taking three of these pills would make you come instantly.

Geebs wrote:
I told you.

I didn't see that and now it's too late.
No, but seriously, not being able to cum is a small price for having a normal life again.

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