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				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:56 am
				by Eraser
				MKJ wrote:
too bad the doom remake wasnt a remake at all, but thats beside the point
updated graphics? the first thing most people will most likely do is turn on picmip 234873 or similar. im not saying they should reinvent the wheel, i also dont mind them making q4 mp like q3. but using the same sounds, 2d gfx and even maps is just retarded.
they couldve just made a HD mappack for q3 and people would prolly be just as excited. (although a lot of the excitement comes from the number 4 ).
While those points are valid, it's also true that Q3 is dying, and to get a new MP game that was as popular as Q3 with Q3 gameplay, you need a new title, and Q4 is best fit for that.
As for people turning graphics down, that could be, but I won't. I've always played Q3 at full GFX and that's what I will do with Q4 as well (ahem, as far as my computer allows it that is, which probably means I'll be running it at picmip 234873 anyway:olo: ).
As for the maps, there's only 3 maps from previous titles, the rest is new, so the old maps is more of a nod back to those games than that the MP is just a copy of old material.
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:00 pm
				by Iccy (temp)
				Everyone is looking at this all wrong. If your judging it on whats going to be new, your going to be disapointed.
What i want from quake4 is quake3 on a slicker engine, more maps, network tweaks and polish. Quake3 was not like most other games, there is no real story line, its basicly a sporting game. To give shit to q4 for not being inovative or taking chances is like saying soccer or football sucks this year cause nothing is different. Its that simple, quake3 was a game that became a online MP sport, so if its re-incarnation in quake4 MP is not vastly different, then thats fine with me. When you fuck with perfection you end up messing it up and to me, quake3 was perfect.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:03 pm
				by Fjoggs
				Also, don't forget that even though it's just q3 with a better engine mp-wise, it' will draw alot of activity to the game.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:56 pm
				by Pext
				Iccy (temp) wrote:To give shit to q4 for not being inovative or taking chances is like saying soccer or football sucks this year cause nothing is different.
told. q3 is the game that get's closest to 1on1 deathmach perfection.
and besides. even if you liked HL 2, you have to admit that it was not all that revolutionary. it was just a very polished shooter with some gimmicky innovations (physics).
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 3:05 pm
				by axbaby
				quake4 won't have bots to play against ?
tell me this ain't so
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 4:01 pm
				by Pext
				there'll be custom bots i guess.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:09 pm
				by komcaz51
				
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:30 pm
				by hemostick
				This post at pcgamer deserves the gold :
Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 6:07 pm
Wow, are you all blind? QUAKE IV WON'T BE OUT FOR MONTHES, SO HOW THE HELL COULD PCG HAVE REVIEWED IT???
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:36 pm
				by komcaz51
				Yea 
  
the whole thread aint too bright
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 5:37 pm
				by Don Carlos
				FUCK
Just so nobody here blows a spleen or anything, here's the deal: Quake 4 is reviewed in our December issue. It's the one with Neverwinter Nights 2 on the cover. It's not actually supposed to hit newsstands until October 18th, but I guess some places have been getting it early.
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Chuck Osborn 
Senior Editor 
PC Gamer

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 6:38 pm
				by Eraser
				why the fuck does a December issue hit newsstands (eg: it's there a few days after the subscription owners get it) on October 18th?
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:03 pm
				by dzjepp
				Magazines are always a month ahead (don't remember why, but there's a reason), I'm suprised PC Gamer is 2 months ahead though.  

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:10 pm
				by Doomcore
				axbaby wrote:quake4 won't have bots to play against ?
tell me this ain't so
I hope there will be some....so I can frag something while I am offline....
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:35 pm
				by saturn
				q4 = q3 updated?
hmmm....nooo, not selling my soul again 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:44 pm
				by Fjoggs
				lies, you are a slave to the system!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:45 pm
				by Fjoggs
				also, i just noticed we're both hard-core old skool people.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:51 pm
				by saturn
				I was, I freed myself. Plus I don't have the time anymore 

 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:55 pm
				by Fjoggs
				STOP LYING OR I SHALL USE ZE FORCE!
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:01 pm
				by saturn
				*shuts down the interrrnet*
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:16 pm
				by Fjoggs
				*fires up internet 2*
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:00 pm
				by Oeloe
				*tampers with the Enterprise's navigation console so Captain Saturn and his ship end up in a temporal anomaly from wich it's impossible to escape, except with the help from Q3!*
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:02 pm
				by Don Carlos
				Oeloe wrote:*tampers with the Enterprise's navigation console so Captain Saturn and his ship end up in a temporal anomaly from wich it's impossible to escape, except with the help from Q3!*
 :icon28:
 
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:15 pm
				by VoxProminence
				well that got strange really quickly.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:10 pm
				by Fjoggs
				we're good like that.
			 
			
					
				
				Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2005 3:10 am
				by stocktroll
				keep in mind reviews dont really care for an intensely skill demanding and balanced gameplay that will foster an ultra level of competition but  more if average joe noob will find the game cool