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riddla wrote:any time. so what instrument do you play again? I play 4.

Any fool knows that technique and creativity aren't the same thing. There's no point in taking someone with an enthusiasm for music and then saying, "What? You can't have fun with this! You have to do it properly". There IS no proper way to do music.

I expect you won't have seen the Fast Show, being a yank, but you come across as Competitive Dad.

riddla wrote:thats why most people who read tab cant hang with chord changes in impromptu situations and know next to nothing about music theory. I'm speaking from experience.

Jugg, from where exactly do you think chords originate?

No, that is due to the fact that those specific people don't have any desire to learn music theory. It's got nothing to do with how they learned their first song.

You're basically saying Donny can't learn to play guitar by learning his favorite songs and figuring out what he likes about music, because he won't be learning the correct way and it will hinder him later when he wants to do other things.

I resent that completely. I've been playing for about 12 years. In the last 5 or 6 I've spent a lot of time learning theory and scales and working on composition. Because music is interesting and thoroughly enjoyable to me, and I like learning as much as I can about it.

I started with an old Ovation acoustic of my uncle's, and learned to play "Come As You Are" by Nirvana from tablature out of a magazine.

Try not to be such an arrogant prick about things. Not everybody needs to learn the way you did. If that were the case, there would be a hell of a lot less guitarists in the world, and certainly a hell of a lot less good music.

So you're saying the best thing for him to do right now would be to "drop tab asap and learn to read real music and start playing scales for an hour every day," even though that is not the way you did it?

Don't get me wrong - that approach works for classical musicians, studio musicians, and other professional musicians who have to rely on those kind of technical skills, and who have a teacher to show them what they don't understand. But that's not the majority of guitar players.

I wouldn't be able to play real-time from a full staff, but I don't want to learn either. I play for my own enjoyment, and when I jam with people I don't do it from sheet music.

I think I'm a good player for having taught myself, but there's no reason to worry about scales and theory unless you're either interested in them, or interested in becoming a professional musician.

Is that a scale?

its a guitar competition yo

I can play piano and guitar (and read propper music) yet I prefer tab over propper sheet music when playing guitar.

I play a little piano. I can read sheet music, I just can't play from it on-the-fly like I can tab. I never thought it was worth taking the time to learn. On complicated songs it's nearly impossible anyway, seeing that most notes have about 5 different ways you can play them.

It's easy enough when just playing chords, but you don't really need sheet music for chords anyway.

Use tabs and the easiest way to get enjoyment out of playing music, then when you feel you aren't growing any longer stretch into theory, reading sheet music, etc..

my 2 cents, from a noob guitarist.. The thing is to keep it fun for you, or you'll get bored and frustrated with your growth and stop playing... The key is to keep it fun..

Real musicians read music.


A well known musicians joke:
How do you shut up a guitarist? Put music in front of him.

i'm going to take music read lessions in the future.

alot of judgemental pricks in here ey?

Also, I picked up the "Learn Rock Guitar" DVD for like 19 bucks.. in actuallity I haven't even looked at the DVD yet, because I can't be arsed too, but it came with a little nice beginner booklet with strumming patterns, chords, finger exercises and I pick a few pages every night and keep practicing, my biggest problem is now, I got about 5-6 chords down and can play what sounds like music to myself, but haven't been able to pick up a song yet.. Now; I need to sit down and put those chords together with a song..

never enough emphasis on right hand technique .

the rythms in there ey.

:tubes:

Dek wrote:Use tabs and the easiest way to get enjoyment out of playing music, then when you feel you aren't growing any longer stretch into theory, reading sheet music, etc..

my 2 cents, from a noob guitarist.. The thing is to keep it fun for you, or you'll get bored and frustrated with your growth and stop playing... The key is to keep it fun..

Good advice. :icon14:

plained wrote:never enough emphasis on right hand technique .

the rythms in there ey.

fuic so true man, hey youve prompted me to realize that while there is a finite amount of notes, there is an infinite amount of rythems :icon20:

hard to get bored with infinity yo

ty agin plained

DRuM wrote:Real musicians read music.


A well known musicians joke:
How do you shut up a guitarist? Put music in front of him.

How can you tell there's a drummer knocking at your door? The knock speeds up.

How can you tell the drum riser's level? The drummer drools out of both sides of his mouth.

If a girl who hangs around musicians is a groupie, what's a guy who hangs around musicians? A drummer.

Geebs wrote:

DRuM wrote:Real musicians read music.


A well known musicians joke:
How do you shut up a guitarist? Put music in front of him.

If a girl who hangs around musicians is a groupie, what's a guy who hangs around musicians? A drummer.

ey?

riddla wrote:...

From the same site you posted that from:

BECAUSE IT IS JUST A ROAD MAP OF ONE POSSIBLE ROUTE.

If all you really want to do is play the piece, and aren't concerned with a deeper understanding of the music, sure, tab reading will get you where you want to go. Standard notation may be unnecessary if you are content to rely upon the recordings to decipher rhythms, and feel your understanding of musical materials to be adequate for what you want to play.

Although for 'growth' music theory and note reading will be needed in the long term.

Stick to playing the skin flute :icon34:

Geebs wrote:

DRuM wrote:Real musicians read music.


A well known musicians joke:
How do you shut up a guitarist? Put music in front of him.

How can you tell there's a drummer knocking at your door? The knock speeds up.

How can you tell the drum riser's level? The drummer drools out of both sides of his mouth.

If a girl who hangs around musicians is a groupie, what's a guy who hangs around musicians? A drummer.

Olde as ye olde hills :icon30:

you were there ey drum lol

*twang*

yea don as an exersise, paccy strummin away on open chords ey,.

do lots of downstrokes only , and up and downs, think consistantcy.

always play standing and never look down.

when possable strum using your whole arm.

it becomes a muscle memory thing ey its good

dduudu, duduudu, dudududu, dddddddd - 4 frequent strumming patterns, at least what I was taught..