Nintendo unveils the Revolution(ary) controller

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o'dium wrote:Nintendo does it again!

(i.e. fucks up)
why?

edit:
try to explain yourself in a mature fashion, because with statements like that, without bringing in arguments to support your opinion, you make yourself look like a complete idiot.

Not that you didn't already look like a complete idiot, but hey, let's assume a clean sheet here.
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r3t wrote:I actually think this controller idea is briljant. It's basically a 3D pointing device, capable of detecting it's relative movements in 3D space, and it's also able to detect roll, yaw and pitch! That will make for one BADASS FPS controller.
Imagine this... main controller in one hand, controlling looking up/down and left/right (like the mouse now), and in the other hand an analog stick device. And then the shotgun... you reload it by flicking the controller quickly up and down, just like you see it done in Doom I and II! :drool:
yea this may be a superior fps controller than the mouse actually. Or at least a precursor to such a device. You'd need an elbow rest in order to last long without getting tired though. Hello armchair :)
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DooMer wrote:Thats pretty goddamn sweet. people still play pc games even though you have to move your mouse around.

Only bad thing is that theres only like 2 buttons. xbox360 and ps3 have like 23213123 buttons. It will probably lack even more in the game department than the n64 and gamecube ever did.
Don't worry. You can still hook Gamecube controllers to it so if a game really requires a more classic control scheme, then a Cube controller will take care of that.
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o'dium wrote:Nintendo does it again!

(i.e. fucks up)
That's really a well argumented remark you made there o'dium. You sure you're not 14?
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That kinda sucks though. Then people would be forced to buy something else. I dont think the developers would like that either.
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I love the fact people have 8 page long posts in here with shit in them and "IM" the one that gets picked out.

Its shit because I dont WANT to sit there waving my arms about like a faggot. It sucks because when i've been at work all day the last thing i want to do is sit down in front of my HD TV and play a shit looking game on my revolution because its not as powerful as the rest, with shit gameplay because there are not buttons, and wave my arms about like a faggot when i'm, already tired.

Its shit because i like to SIT DOWN, chill out, relax and play a game. Not have to wave my arms about the place and understand what direction rolls the fucking goomba on the screen.

Its shit, because i've been a nintendo fan since the NEW days, and with the cube i was let down with its shear lack of games and huge price tag, and now the revolution is shit because its nowhere near as good as the other consoles and it makes the PS3 pad look like a god send.

Its shit, because its what i think, and i'm entitled to my fucking oppinion. So fuck off Eraser with your "come back, quote, analize and reply" posts you always do, because THE ABOVE is what i "THINK" and no matter how wrong i may be to you, its right to have your own "OPPINION".

Its shit.
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+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
DooMer wrote:people still play pc games even though you have to move your mouse around.
bad analogy
same wrist movement, and you dont have to sit up at a table.
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Eraser wrote:http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=60913

People said the DS was a gimmick...
THE DS IS A GIMMICK. Thats why there are no games for the thing and the games that do come out are cross platform tripe with shitty visuals and added "touch the screen a few times" extras. Its only a rare few nintendo gems that make GREAT use of the touch screen.

I love the DS, but the lack of support on THAT as well is retarded. Why bother.
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o'dium wrote:I love the fact people have 8 page long posts in here with shit in them and "IM" the one that gets picked out.
to be fair, that's because you don't know your own arse from a hole in the ground.
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DooMer wrote:That kinda sucks though. Then people would be forced to buy something else. I dont think the developers would like that either.
Developers are very enthousiastic about the possibilities with the new controller. Many games would still be playable with this new controller.

First person shooters would be excellent with this. On IGN they write they could see an RTS game working very well with this controller as well (so I expect RPG's would be good for it as well). Racing games would be excellent, where you could steer using the gyroscope. The only gametype I expect to be quite different are fighting games, as those rely heavily on a wide array of buttons, but who knows what sort of innovation they will come with for that.

Nintendo let IGN play Metroid Prime 2 (a gamecube game) with the revolution controller, and it felt very natural. I think that adapting the controls for a game to the Revolution should be easier than people expect.
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o'dium... go cry in a corner and shut the fuck up. Ofcourse you're entitled to your own opinion... it's just that I don't want to know about it.

PS3 and Xbox360 :icon10:
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o'dium wrote:I love the fact people have 8 page long posts in here with shit in them and "IM" the one that gets picked out.
because those 8 pages with shit in them contain shit backed up by arguments. Nobody writes "it's shit" and leaves it at that. You're the only one doing that.
o'dium wrote:Its shit because I dont WANT to sit there waving my arms about like a faggot.
I'm comfortable enough with my heterosexuality to look like a faggot.
o'dium wrote:It sucks because when i've been at work all day the last thing i want to do is sit down in front of my HD TV and play a shit looking game on my revolution because its not as powerful as the rest
Nintendo said the Revolution's graphical power would be comparable to the XBox 360 and PS3. They're just not focusing on it, and that's good, because the age where good games are defined by how they look should be left behind us. There's more in the world than polycount and shaders.

edit: oh and let me quote from this thread:

o'dium on MGS4:
While it DOES look good, it just looks, i dunno, meh, like all the other "wowza next gen" shots...

So apparantly XBox 360 and PS3 don't look that great either in the graphical department. Great contradiction there o'dium :icon14:
o'dium wrote:with shit gameplay because there are not buttons,
You don't need buttons. Buttons don't equal good gameplay. The DS proves this. Open your mind and see how if you keep yourself constrained to classic input devices, you'll also limit the number of possibilities in genres of games. I think everyone by now agrees that every single genre in existence has been completely saturated by games, clones of games and clones of clones of games.
o'dium wrote:and wave my arms about like a faggot when i'm, already tired.
I don't believe for a second that this controller will cause physical stress.
o'dium wrote:Its shit because i like to SIT DOWN, chill out, relax and play a game. Not have to wave my arms about the place and understand what direction rolls the fucking goomba on the screen.
It's different. I don't doubt that you can relax while playing with that controller. If you're too tired to hold up a 50 gram remote control then you need your muscles checked because you probably have Parkinson.
o'dium wrote:Its shit, because i've been a nintendo fan since the NEW days, and with the cube i was let down with its shear lack of games
Bullshit
o'dium wrote:and huge price tag
WTF? It's the fucking cheapest piece of hardware out there in console land :icon27: €99 for a cube + mariokart. Not exactly a big hit on your wallet.
o'dium wrote:and now the revolution is shit because its nowhere near as good as the other consoles and it makes the PS3 pad look like a god send.
If graphics equal good consoles, then there's a chance that you're right. Two things:

#1 IMO graphics don't equal good gameplay
#2 It still remains to be seen if the Revolution is so much lesser than the other consoles in terms of processing power. It's just that nintendo doesn't go around crying that their new console is 100 times more powerful than the previous one. Sony are lying bastards.
o'dium wrote:Its shit, because its what i think, and i'm entitled to my fucking oppinion. So fuck off Eraser with your "come back, quote, analize and reply" posts you always do, because THE ABOVE is what i "THINK" and no matter how wrong i may be to you, its right to have your own "OPPINION".

Its shit.
Yes, you're entitled to an opinion, but simply stating that it's shit in a discussion forum is not enough. It makes you look like a whiney idiot or a troll.... or most likely both.
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DooMer wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
DooMer wrote:people still play pc games even though you have to move your mouse around.
bad analogy
same wrist movement, and you dont have to sit up at a table.
nah, seems to me you'll be moving not one, but two arms about. note: "arms", not just the wrist.
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o'dium wrote:THE DS IS A GIMMICK. Thats why there are no games for the thing and the games that do come out are cross platform tripe with shitty visuals and added "touch the screen a few times" extras. Its only a rare few nintendo gems that make GREAT use of the touch screen.
There are quite a few games out there that can't be done without the stylus: Kirby, Yoshi touch & go, meteos, mario 64 DS and Metroid Hunters (accepting the fact that there's no analogue controller which easily breaks off *cough*).

The touch screen on the DS is not a gimmick. It's a fantastic input device and feels just as natural, if not even more natural than a analogue stick in 3D settings, and it's great for 2D stuff because you can touch and drag and such.
o'dium wrote:I love the DS, but the lack of support on THAT as well is retarded. Why bother.
I've had my DS for only half a year and I already own 10 games, which I all love very much. The only exception maybe being NFS Underground 2, which is, yes, again your average "classic" control style game. Nothing special, just a handheld version of a NFS game.
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+JuggerNaut+ wrote:nah, seems to me you'll be moving not one, but two arms about. note: "arms", not just the wrist.
Two arms is optional. The device is originally intended to be held in one hand.
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right, but even moving ONE arm about is still more than moving a mouse with your wrist in PC FPS games. not sure about you, but mine barely moves, if at all.
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Stop complaining, this things going to give you arms like Mike Tyson.

I think it looks fucking great and I can't wait to get my hands on that thing.

Nintendo does it again! (Innovate within a stale industry that is)


Aggggh imagine a Star Wars dueling game with this thing.
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I think it seems fucking brilliant.

o'dium is a whiny little cunt
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+JuggerNaut+ wrote:right, but even moving ONE arm about is still more than moving a mouse with your wrist in PC FPS games. not sure about you, but mine barely moves, if at all.
Depending on the sensitivity and resolution of this device, it may be adaptable to an arm rest where you only have to move your wrist for full range of motion.

(pushing and pulling might be a bit tricky though)
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+JuggerNaut+ wrote:right, but even moving ONE arm about is still more than moving a mouse with your wrist in PC FPS games. not sure about you, but mine barely moves, if at all.
sure, but I don't really see why this would be a problem. Hey, the least thing is that fat pimpled gamers will finally get some excersise ;)
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Mr.Magnetichead wrote:Stop complaining, this things going to give you arms like Mike Tyson.

I think it looks fucking great and I can't wait to get my hands on that thing.

Nintendo does it again! (Innovate within a stale industry that is)


Aggggh imagine a Star Wars dueling game with this thing.
I'm almost compelled to buy that new "Britney Spear's spank fest" game. Hey, imagine that :olo:
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You will see people sue... wait and see...

If had the gyro mouse controller for the media PC on my TV and I was getting carpal tunnel just trying to move the mouse around the screen, my wrist hurt with all the up/down/side/side movement...

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Maybe you're just a pathetic joke of a man.
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Mr.Magnetichead wrote:Maybe you're just a pathetic joke of a man.
whatever dick, we'll see... it's a gimmick.. not a very good one at that, anyone thats used a gyro mouse in a presentation or anything else will tell you that.. :D
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Dek wrote:
Mr.Magnetichead wrote:Maybe you're just a pathetic joke of a man.
whatever dick, we'll see... it's a gimmick.. not a very good one at that, anyone thats used a gyro mouse in a presentation or anything else will tell you that.. :D
I don't agree. The fact that technology was used before (in a different fashion) doesn't mean it's just a gimmick. I bet you never used your gyromouse in a 3D game.

A touchscreen isn't exactly new technology either, but the way it's used in the DS is completely new. Same goes for an analogue stick when it was introduced with the N64.

The fact that you've used a gyromouse for presentations doesn't mean it's not extremely cool to use this in videogames. It doesn't mean that it won't work either.
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