Captain Mazda wrote:
Again, show that Jews are made fun of on a regular basis in public newspapers around the world. Just show me.
Take a look at the one's Werldhed just posted for an example. You don't see any bomb threats or embassy burnings over those now do you?
On that note, quit attempting to redirect the topic to a Jew vs Muslim issue. The point is that other religions get made fun of all the time but you don't see them burning flags and buildings over over a perceived insult.
No, they tend to create so-called "historical events" to fester false sympathy for their intentions and control parts of the world to complete their agendas. Then they get into the murdering, killing, invading, bombing, and silencing.
Besides, those comics are irrelevant. I said comics "making fun of jews", not ones portraying the truth. A 14-yr old Palestinian boy throws a rock at an Israeli tank and gets shot by a machinegunner. Exactly what was shown in the comic. Jews have a passion for hate and love to spread it through their lies and subliminal messages. Weak-minded fools swallow it all.
anyone catch richard dawkins' series on religion: the root of all evil? nothing like an atheist to put it all into perspective, and current events illustrate his views on religion pretty well
Captain Mazda wrote:
Again, show that Jews are made fun of on a regular basis in public newspapers around the world. Just show me.
Take a look at the one's Werldhed just posted for an example. You don't see any bomb threats or embassy burnings over those now do you?
On that note, quit attempting to redirect the topic to a Jew vs Muslim issue. The point is that other religions get made fun of all the time but you don't see them burning flags and buildings over over a perceived insult.
No, they tend to create so-called "historical events" to fester false sympathy for their intentions and control parts of the world to complete their agendas. Then they get into the murdering, killing, invading, bombing, and silencing.
Besides, those comics are irrelevant. I said comics "making fun of jews", not ones portraying the truth. A 14-yr old Palestinian boy throws a rock at an Israeli tank and gets shot by a machinegunner. Exactly what was shown in the comic. Jews have a passion for hate and love to spread it through their lies and subliminal messages. Weak-minded fools swallow it all.
A passion for hate? And the kid who threw the rock is being friendly?
You seem to be missing the whole point of this debate, just like fundamentalist muslims. Let me spell it out for you:
A cartoon of M-dawg with a bomb on his head is someone's political commentary. A cartoon of a jewish soldier misquoting "an eye for an eye" is also political commentary.
Both are legal in the countries they were published in, but how many Jews are flipping out about the Jewish cartoon?
It's the same with all the anti-Catholic cartoons that appeared during the pedo scandal. Catholic bishops didn't go off and demand violence against the publishers.
btw, at your contradiction:
No, they tend to create so-called "historical events" to fester false sympathy for their intentions and control parts of the world to complete their agendas.
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Besides, those comics are irrelevant. I said comics "making fun of jews", not ones portraying the truth.
seremtan wrote:anyone catch richard dawkins' series on religion: the root of all evil? nothing like an atheist to put it all into perspective, and current events illustrate his views on religion pretty well
While I'm sympathetic, I think Dawkins' righteousness may compromise what should be a relatively dispassionate scientific outlook on religion. Not wrt the validity of religion, but wrt it's effect on modern society.
r3t wrote:I really don't see why those cartoons are more offensive than any other religious cartoon depicting, for example, the pope or jesus. *shrug*
because there's nothing in the christian religion that specifically forbids it.
having said that, been talking to a muslim colleague about it and he said pretty much the same as the akond i spoke to ages ago - that it could be argued that the rules are really for muslims and non-muslim subjects in muslim countries.
it still boils down to threatening violence because of breaking an ideal.
I heard the other day something that made a whole fuckload of sense, which seems to escape geebs in particular. When does an idea suddenly become more valuable than human life, and at that point, does life's ease of dispatch not make it reasonable to question the importance most things?
edit: including human idealogy?
Wash. Post profiles Flemming Rose, culture editor of the Danish Jyllnands-Posten newspaper. Rose contacted 25 Danish newspaper cartoonists in September with a challenge: Draw Muhammad as you see him. Rose said his newspaper has received two bomb threats, and he got an anonymous e-mail telling him there was a contract on his life. He is guarded by police whenever he appears in public. On Sunday, his newspaper will publish a full page of cartoons satirizing Jesus and the Israel-Palestinian conflict. All of the 12 or so cartoons have appeared in the paper previously
edit: And notice the Rose guy was the one who specifically asked for cartoons depicting Muhammad.
that cartoon can't even remotely be called defamatory. during the 1st intifada, the palestinians threw rocks and the IDF responded with live rounds. if there's any criticism that can be made of it, it's that it's *too* truthful to be funny