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Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:56 am
by MKJ
Eraser wrote:
plained wrote:after doing these kits it takes their homemade designs to a whole new higher level
That's the problem. These new LEGO sets don't allow for homemade designs, or at most in a very limited fashion. They use too many single-purpose prefab parts that are just unusable as anything other than what they were originally intended for.
indeed, been saying that for years.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:36 am
by Eraser
Speaking of LEGO, I'm sure Tsakali can appreciate this

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:53 am
by Tsakali
That's pretty much the only way to make lego relevant. Build big.
I will allow this.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 2:22 pm
by plained
look closely there are very few proprietary parts , very few

the usless shit kits with all the big proprietary parts are the licensed properties ones, ESPECIALLY the shit wars(starwars)ones.

you guys sound extremely unknowledgeable regarding this, i dont know if ur kids arnt big enough(imposable) or you are just oblivios, but new lego is better than ever, i know because i did tons as a kid and now my kids have and have built many many mnay of the new kits

the new city train desroys the old lego train i had in the 70's for ex.

i will say tho maybe you think they use alot of big proprietary pieces but really many more smaller parts are use than everr b4 giving you that impression.

tell me Eraser and MKJ what were the last 5 modern kits you expirenced and why they were shit?

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:05 pm
by xer0s
LEGO thread :arrow:

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:18 pm
by 0psys
My girlfriend's dad is a director at JPL, and when I was in California in February he took me to the HQ in Pasedena to see the rover in person. It was absolutely amazing.

In a car park out the back of the building, they'd constructed a martian surface where they tested it.

I was jetlagged, so don't remember any details, but he pointed out all of these amazing instruments and analysis tools in had on board, as well as a breakdown of some of the materials used to build it.

He also said, very nonchalently, I might add, that he's pretty sure there's (microbial) life on Mars. I was struck by how casual he was about it, it seems most people in his department at JPL think the same. He doesn't think there's life anywhere else in the solar system, though.. He expects that they'll find it within the next few years, or at least near-conclusive evidence of past life.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:35 pm
by Plan B
0psys wrote:...He doesn't think there's life anywhere else in the solar system, though...
Yeah, probably not in *this* solar system.
There's a about a billion more solar systems to consider, though.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:51 pm
by 0psys
I think that's why he said solar system and not universe.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 3:53 pm
by scared?
I bet Jupiter has life...

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:23 pm
by GONNAFISTYA
There's a chance Europa has the potential.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:53 pm
by Eraser
I just hope life on Mars is not as stupid as life on Earth.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:02 pm
by obsidian
GONNAFISTYA wrote:There's a chance Europa has the potential.
Monoliths, sea-tentacles, and dying Chinese people, etc.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:04 pm
by seremtan
scared? wrote:I bet Jupiter has life...
more than you, anyway

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:07 pm
by Captain
0psys wrote:I was jetlagged, so don't remember any details
Well that's convenient.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:21 pm
by Insensatez
GONNAFISTYA wrote:There's a chance Europa has the potential.
You do realise its very, very cold on the surface of Europa?

I'm talking about the energy consumption needed to make a base habitable there, the cost of building multiple refueling stations from here to Jupiter just for bringing the technology there to make a powerplant there.

Ice means water, so theoretically they can build a plant to extract hydrogen.

It's not going to happen in the next couple of hundreds of years.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:35 pm
by Eraser
Certainly not with NASA's budget being cut every year so the yanks can fund their private wars.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:40 pm
by Insensatez
Eraser wrote:I just hope life on Mars is not as stupid as life on Earth.
Wherever there are humans, stupidity is guaranteed!

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 5:50 pm
by 0psys
GONNAFISTYA wrote:There's a chance Europa has the potential.
At Christmas he took a crew to somewhere in the ocean to find analogues for Europa; to study lifeforms that thrive around hydrothermal vents believed to reside in the liquid interior. He played me a couple of 1080 videos taken from 5km below the surface of these amazing colourless shrimp that live directly next to these 400 celsius vents spewing out pure sulphur.

He doesn't think Europa has any life though. "probably not" was a direct quote.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:14 pm
by obsidian
Insensatez wrote:
GONNAFISTYA wrote:There's a chance Europa has the potential.
You do realise its very, very cold on the surface of Europa?
It's a moon of water. While the surface is frozen, it has breaks along its surface that indicates that it may be shifting. It has been theorized that gravitational pressures (similar to what keeps the center of the earth molten lava) has kept a layer of liquid water further below the surface. Where there's liquid water, there's potential for life.

You might want to read Arthur C. Clarke's 2010.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:27 pm
by seremtan
all we need are a shitload of monoliths to turn jupiter into a second sun and we're laughing :idea:

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:32 pm
by obsidian
Laughing because all the sexy ladies can even work on their tans at night. I'm going to start stockpiling the lotion.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:21 pm
by MKJ
Insensatez wrote:
Eraser wrote:I just hope life on Mars is not as stupid as life on Earth.
Wherever there are humans, stupidity is guaranteed!
and arrogance. when GKY talked about potential life on Europa, he didn't mean life for us humans.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:09 pm
by seremtan
Insensatez wrote:
Eraser wrote:I just hope life on Mars is not as stupid as life on Earth.
Wherever there are humans, stupidity is guaranteed!
you two need to either go on a killing spree to cull the herd, kill yourselves, or shut the fuck up already

Re: mars landing

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:37 am
by GONNAFISTYA
0psys wrote:He doesn't think Europa has any life though. "probably not" was a direct quote.
He's probably right, but I'll keep hoping. I guess the only thing that does keep the hope alive is that every six months or so scientists keep finding life here on Earth where they don't expect to find it.

Re: mars landing

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2012 12:42 am
by mrd
If wormy things can survive near 400 degree vents of sulphur dioxide 5km below sea level, then why can't some other wormy things survive in sub-freezing temperatures on Europa? Granted, they would likely need some sort of ancestor to evolve from in order to survive in such extreme circumstances... but I don't think it's wholly impossible. We should go check it out anyway, at least try some delicious Europa water :up: