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i told ya it wasn't gonna be as bad as everyone was saying...

mass media hype'n hysteria. Baby has been set back to category 3 by now...
Disappointed?

from what i have seen on tv...sustained winds are more like cat 1-2. so funny how everyone just falls for the hype...i knew 12 hours ago just by listening to news reports it wasn't gonna be shit...how did i know? they stopped talking about the wind speeds when they dropped under 155...

this hurrican is the biggest letdown ever.

CNN tries to make up for it by filming a swinging crane for 3 hours.

"It's about to go! Any minute now! Maybe a couple more minutes! But it'll certainly go! It's still swinging very hard! It's hitting the pier now! It's gonna go! This is very dangerous!"

SplishSplash wrote:this hurrican is the biggest letdown ever.

CNN tries to make up for it by filming a swinging crane for 3 hours.

"It's about to go! Any minute now! Maybe a couple more minutes! But it'll certainly go! It's still swinging very hard! It's hitting the pier now! It's gonna go! This is very dangerous!"

I basically heard just that on FoxNews. In between the stories about the Missing White Women.

I just heard somewhere that the NO govt. (mayor and city officials), instead of helping evacuate poor people, have put all of them in rough shelters inside the city.

If that's the case, there will probably be a higher death toll.

I still don't know how bad this storm was though - I haven't watched the news all day, and the news I saw this morning was just typical hype. So I have no idea if it fizzled to a heavy rain, or stayed a Cat 5 all the way to the center of the city and past, aside from the people's comments I've read online this afternoon.

I hope it wasn't as bad as the predictions made it out to be.

I think it's a category 2 now (that's what I heard an hour ago....)

Yea, but isn't that after it has already been across some land and slowed down a bit?

I'm in Nashville, and the building supervisors here at work are talking about generators and such for tomorrow. It looks like we're supposed to get 50-60 mph winds, with 70-80 mph gusts. We're not used to that sort of thing here, so naturally some people are panicking (people panic around here when it snows 3 inches also).

So it'll probably be a crappy, nasty day here tomorrow, but I still don't know how the people fared down on the coast. This is the first time in a long long time that Nashville has been under a tropical storm advisory, so I imagine it wasn't a very good time for them.

Hmmm, are they asking people to leave, Rook?

Riddla, did it hit you yet? I saw footage of cars under the water in Mobile....

Nah, they're not asking people to leave here - I doubt it will be anything that serious.

Here's a little newsletter that went out to our employees (We're a newspaper):

As Middle Tennessee sits in the path of some pretty nasty weather, here is some helpful information for employees:

*The presses will start 30 minutes early tonight in anticipation of delivery problems due to rain
*Several schools in the area will be closed tomorrow, so you may need to make other arrangements for childcare

Our teams in the newsroom and circulation will be putting a lot of effort into gathering and delivering the news, so support from every department will be crucial to our success in the next couple of days. Please do everything you can to assist.

While it is not anticipated that the storm will reach the level of an emergency status, if any government entity declares an emergency and banned travel, employees will be compensated for their time. Barring that, we will be open for business.

The hurricane was category 5 offshore, moved to category 4 as it reached land, and is now a category 1.

So of course, there's no need for evacuation north of New Orleans.

Fortunately in New Orleans, it looks like the evacuation and sheltering has worked very effectively.

That's good to hear.

I'm from a smalll town on the outskirts of New Orleans. The media always seem to make things so much worst than they have to. Like they are trying to cause a panic. I understand they want to make clear that people should evacuate, but there will always be those few that just wont go. Like the idiots getting trapped in there attics and shit. I was lucky enough to be at work for all this. I work offshore and the whole fleet of supply boats that work for BP out of this area have been sent to Galviston, Texas.

As for the Superdome...there have been problems with the roof on that thing for years. I remember at one time they had to get it changed because the pelicans were eating it. I guess they found the material or paint or whatever was up there to be pretty tasty.

[xeno]Julios wrote: holy fuck! - i know that's a photoshop but the original wave is incredible!

Thats not a chop. Thats teahupoo in tahiti. anyone who reads carve or is into surfing will know of that place, some of the best (most dangerous) surf in the world.

ajerara wrote:EO's pic is Teahupo in Tahiti, and it's not photoshopped, that's really what it's like on a big day, it breaks over about two feet of water with coral reef under it. There are a lot of surf pics of the place, it's really heavy.

sry didnt see this.
Yeah that pretty much describes it best.

i wonder if leaders from other nations will do a Bush Sr./Clinton style tsunami fundraiser...or maybe Bush Sr. and Clinton will just do the same thing over again for this region...

You guys seem to be making light of the fact it didn't hit as a Cat.5. As stupid as that is, I have to assume that most of you have never been through a hurricane or seen the damage first hand.

Like I said before, Katrina as a Cat.1 killed 3 people, put 1.5 million people out of power and did over a billion dollars in damage. It's not always the hurricane itself that does all of the damage. It's the flash flooding and spin-off tornados that destroy a good portion of things.

I've been in Florida for 33 years now. I've been through and seen first hand the damage of a hurricane. A Cat.1 is usually not that bad, unless it stalls over land and sit there dumping on everything. A Cat.2 will tip over trees, blow down power lines and damage weaker buildings. A Cat.3 will do all of the above, except it will destory things like mobile homes and rip the roofs off older/wood frame homes. Being my home is newer concrete block construction and built to withstand a Cat. 3, I'd stay through all of the above. I'll simply put up my hurricane shutters, kick on the 12KW generator and wait it out. But if there is a Cat.4 or 5, I'm not hanging around. I've seen the damage caused by Andrew and have no desire to witness it as it happens.

When this thing hit the coast as a Cat. 4, it did a tremendous amount of damage. Damage like most of you have never seen. If anyone caught in it's path wasn't killed they were really lucky.

GE My Friends.

Ask Sir TNF, Dave, Saturn...
The worsy has yet to come...
We are lucky in a sense that it didn't do so much harm physically speaking but what about the aftermath... Sequels of psychologies and the likes.
I mean, Imagine all the people coming back and seeing their house destroyed. Even with insurance and I doubt it cover it all.
Man...This is a real pandemic disaster.
Pete

Who told you it was a pandemic disaster?

YourGrandpa wrote:Who told you it was a pandemic disaster?

GE my friend.
Where do you live?
I meant that at least in that area it will be years to recover from it all. May be I misused the pandemic word but at least in that area it will be someting we can't imagine from others.
Pete

pete wrote: GE my friend.
Where do you live?
I meant that at least in that area it will be years to recover from it all. May be I misused the pandemic word but at least in that area it will be someting we can't imagine from others.
Pete

Oh, you used the word properly and in the correct context. I was just wondering who told you it was a "pandemic disaster".

Maybe pete thinks for himself...

Creepy.

YourGrandpa wrote:

pete wrote: GE my friend.
Where do you live?
I meant that at least in that area it will be years to recover from it all. May be I misused the pandemic word but at least in that area it will be someting we can't imagine from others.
Pete

Oh, you used the word properly and in the correct context. I was just wondering who told you it was a "pandemic disaster".

From what I know of that name''pandemic'' mean that it is something like all the people will be affected by something that is occuring bad or wrong.
When we hear about it though it is almost always wrong.
I have studied... and even if I wouldn't have in Psychosociolgy of the communication at UQAM A University here in Quebec.
I am a Pacific and love everyones.
Almost as Greenpeace.
Sorry.
I just wish that everyone is OK.
Pete

Click this for a lovely graphic:

[lvlshot]http://www.oxygenws.com/picture/tsunami.jpg[/lvlshot]

The story behind it:

(from http://www.agu.org/pubs/Hurricane_SP0552987.html)

As the Hurricane Approaches:

A Classic Dilemma in Deciding Emergency Actions



The image above is the satellite view of a recent Category 4 hurricane approaching the Florida east coast presents a unique challenge in decision making: for the forecaster, the emergency manger, and the coastal resident. It is an icon of the problems that must be confronted, followed by intelligent actions set in motion-an essential first step in coping with hurricanes. It is one yardstick used in our analyses of progress during the twentieth century in dealing with hurricanes. Consider what is at stake here.

The broken line is the hurricane path to its present position. The two solid lines to the west and north of the hurricane eye (cloud-free center) represent hypothetical predictions of movement the next 48 hours generated by two of the most skillful numerical models. The two tracks, after 48 hours, are separated by little more than an eye diameter-about the limit of prediction skill at the time of this publication. If the hurricane followed the orange track, it would bring catastrophe from Charleston SC to Norfolk, VA, requiring relocation of hundreds of thousand of coastal residents, and would cause untold billions of dollars in property damage. Yet, if the yellow track were followed, the hurricane would be unlikely to produce more than minimal property damage, other than some beach front erosion, with little visual evidence or justification for having relocated most coastal residents. This is a classic example of the forecaster's nightmare. He or she faces a dilemma in deciding the extent and context of warnings that MUST be issued immediately---the hurricane is within 36 hours of a potential landfall. But 36 hours will be needed to relocate large numbers of coastal residents. It is equally a societal dilemma: to require relocations, to respond to that requirement, to set in motion expensive disaster relief measures. If the forecaster chooses the worst scenario, and the optimistic one prevails, many hundreds of miles of coastline will have been needlessly subjected to emergency actions at a cost averaging as much as a million dollars a mile. If the alternative (yellow track) is chosen, but the hurricane follows the orange track, the extent of disaster, and its repercussions will produce the feared nightmare: for the forecaster, the emergency manager, the coastal resident, and many others.