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Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:27 am
by hemostick
Argh, not that material on a floor ! Multiple pass materials with cubemapping are a perf. killer on slower machines, especially when used on big surfaces and even with forceambient.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:03 am
by Method
Not if the brushes are split up properly. The level runs at 60 FPS on GeForce 6800. Though thanks for the hands up, once the beta is out, I'll ask people to post their FPS stats.
-Method
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:04 am
by Silicone_Milk
Yeah, those shots are all fine and dandy but check out the texturing skills:

:icon32:
Serious craptacular texture I made in paint to tell me what brushes are what when I'm working on my alpha maps. As you can probably guess, brushes textured with this abomination mark the volume space for future buildings in my maps.
Looks like ass when compiled with only -meta
It sucked so bad I just had to post it to break up the pattern of professional-style artwork I've been seeing on this thread

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:44 am
by voodoochopstiks
Method: There's rumors going around that there'll be 125fps support in 1.4, we want to get that on your level(besides, that reflection deal looks a bit shitty too).
I love the window ornament though, really cool.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:52 am
by Method
Ok, let me look into the rumor and see if I can change the floor texture to something else.
-Method
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 1:47 pm
by hemostick
GF 6800 ? That's not low-end

Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:07 pm
by dichtfux
hemostick wrote:GF 6800 ? That's not low-end

Indeed! Remember me posting that I'd get myself new hardware soon? That's the card I bought! :icon28:
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:16 pm
by Kat
hemostick wrote:GF 6800 ? That's not low-end

High maintenance '
Girl
Friend'?! I didn't know they had model numbers these days. :icon25:
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 3:46 pm
by o'dium
Little update, gotta change the lower floor to something more interesting now.
[lvlshot]http://www.quake2evolved.com/odium/odq4dm1_3.jpg[/lvlshot]
[lvlshot]http://www.quake2evolved.com/odium/odq4dm1_4.jpg[/lvlshot]
[lvlshot]http://www.quake2evolved.com/odium/odq4dm1_5.jpg[/lvlshot]
Also does Quake 4 have patch stitching by default? some of my surfaces refuse to stich...?
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:21 pm
by wviperw
o'dium: There is too harsh of a transition to the white sky. I think it'd look better if you put some fog up up there similar to what Lukin did to blend it. Also, I think getting better lights would help a lot. I can't help but look at them, especially the ones on the doorways and trim near the top, and think that I'm seeing the missing texture black/white checker pattern.
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 4:25 pm
by o'dium
Doorways I'm gonna change anyway
The sky is a tough one, because, well, thats what sky looks like when it snows!
As for the lights, I think they are fine (apart from the doorways)...?
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 5:58 pm
by corsair
I disagree with wviperw, I'd keep this kind of sky. I think the visual 'problem' if I may call it so, are the rocks (texture/contrast of shadow) and the ground of the jumppad. The rest looks nicely dressed in textures and neatly filtered by the fogish snow effect, perhaps some elements seem to be repeated too much, but thats okay I guess.
Also, I personaly dislike the way you surrounded the near-jumppad architecture with rocks at its base, all the way tru to the top. I'm not sure what civilisation has created building, but most civs usualy don't see mountains growing over their structures. I think it's better to connect the jumppad thingy with the both (symetrical?) sides. If you want to keep the rough element into the map, you could do something interesting with the lower floor (as you said you wanted to do anyway). Perhaps make this floor of rough rock too, a few large stone rocks (not too many) in the corners or places that aren't in the players path, but may just yet provide some sneaky trickjump. And keep the surface flat where people have to walk, else the movement will suck.
Bleh, hope you don't mind the critique, for you might not've intended the post to recieve such.. just felt saying it :]
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:00 pm
by o'dium
Well, I was thinking the same damn thing about the rocks

Im gonna remove those at theb ase, and then just have them up top, with snow above the rocks themselves. That will look more natural.
As for the floor, I was planning on breaking it up (with a bit of Ice, and some groves where people would walk)
And for the sky, well, thats a different story. I do actualy havea sligth scrolling effect but you cant see it

So i may remove it... Bloody fog!
[lvlshot]http://www.quake2evolved.com/odium/odq4dm1_6.jpg[/lvlshot]
[lvlshot]http://www.quake2evolved.com/odium/odq4dm1_7.jpg[/lvlshot]
EDIT: Updated with a new rock:
[lvlshot]http://www.quake2evolved.com/odium/odq4dm1_8.jpg[/lvlshot]
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 7:10 pm
by dnky
Cant allow my reputation for prolific map production fall to somebody else; damn it if other folks are submiting more than one map, so can I.
Cave section from a Q4 gothic level:
http://www.leveldk.co.uk/idcomp/comp2.jpg
Posted: Fri Jan 19, 2007 11:02 pm
by axbaby
map looks good o'dium
door arches look familiar

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 8:15 am
by Method
I know that My girl 6800 is not a low end card. I just said that the slightly above card runs the level at 60 FPS.
Shit, you guys got me all worked up about the performance now. I think I'll release the beta this weekend and then work on optimization.
-Method
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:01 am
by o'dium
SOMEBODY KINDLY INFORM ME AS TO WHY MY PATCHES ARE NOT STICHING TOGETHER. IT CAN BE SEEN ON THE LATEST PICS KTHX

Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 10:09 am
by dnky
@ O'dium, have you set subdivisions? Concentric patch trims often dont fit but by setting subdivision this can be remedied. Similer to thing happened in Q3 were LOD caused splits in curved patches.
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 11:31 am
by Lukin
o'dium wrote:Sorry Lukin

A good 30mins work, tryin to get a texture set/theme going... Wanted something to keep me busy (Yes i know i never finish anything lol)
[lvlshot]http://www.quake2evolved.com/odium/odq4dm1_1.jpg[/lvlshot]
Lawsuit coming! :icon34:
o'dium wrote:First of all...
1) The fogging at the top, nice touch to make it look bloomed. However, rotate your fog brush. ATM, you have the fog blend facing up, when it should be down. rotate it along the one axis so its the right way around and you will have a nicer blend

The fog brush is rotated - look at this broken pillar and you'll notice that it work ok there. It looks worse on the wall because of the giant flare I have put under a sky, which looks cool from the right angle, but sucks from any other... I believe I've found a way to get rid of this side effect but have not tested it yet (because I spent whole yesterday on fixing a water sounds on "Spiral" :P).
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:35 pm
by o'dium
Ahh i see wht you did there.
I was messing with snow and how it works in levels myself, and I found that instead of fogging the upper level, if i just used a snow texture with a slight curve around my upper brushes, it gives quite a nice effect and feel to the upper areas. Looks kinda like what snow does in nature...
I would show you but my host FTP is down for some odd reason...
Ill edit this post when its back up.
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:48 am
by wattro
just wanted to say that there are a lot of stellar maps in progress that have been posted around here lately!
keep it up everyone!
Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:02 am
by Lukin
Just read it on ESR: servers with "Ravage", "Spiral" and "City Heat" betas:
}WTF{ FTW pw=wtf Q4CMP Beta Maps
8.9.9.108:28004
Chicago
Q4MAX 0.77a Duel, beta maps.
195.238.75.21:28004
pass: creampie
Netherlands
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 3:35 pm
by dnky
After some very useful beta testing (many thanks eb for setting up the server for us) my entries for the Q4 CMP contest have almost reached a state of completion.
Huge thanks to all those that tested the levels.
My entries are both very different in style, but represent different aspects of elements I like to see:
edit// I should add, ignore the FPS, I was running the editor in the back ground...both levels run between 40 to 60 FPS on my mid range system.
For a little more info pertaining to each level please take a look
HERE
Many thanks, best of luck to all mappers and their entries.

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:26 pm
by Kat
Ooo look, Gothic!

Actually good to see something alternative to tech/base ;o)
Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:00 pm
by wviperw
Thought that was Q3 the first couple times I saw those shots.
