Quake3World

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:09 am**

ban tobacco

Okay. You people can go ahead and believe what you want. Ban those toxic phuq'ng cars you're always driving. I drive my truck to work. I drive it home. I rarely drive it anywhere else. I walk. I ride my bike. Conservation. Safety.

If You got locked in a garage with a smoker, and he smoked a cigarette while in there, you would still be alive when he was done. Same garage. Replace the smoker with a running beemer. You're not gonna make it out of that garage alive.

Second hand smoke is grounds for outrage and deadly fumes from your lazymoble aren't?

Oooooookayyyyyy.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:10 am**

Peenyuh wrote:
ban tobacco
Okay. You people can go ahead and believe what you want. Ban those toxic phuq'ng cars you're always driving. I drive my truck to work. I drive it home. I rarely drive it anywhere else. I walk. I ride my bike. Conservation. Safety.

If You got locked in a garage with a smoker, and he smoked a cigarette while in there, you would still be alive when he was done. Same garage. Replace the smoker with a running beemer. You're not gonna make it out of that garage alive.

Second hand smoke is grounds for outrage and deadly fumes from your lazymoble aren't?

Oooooookayyyyyy.

Fuck no, ban both.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:11 am**

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote: I'm not campaigning, I'm expressing an opinion. We weren't discussing tobacco and alcohol. Make a thread about it and I'll campaign for you.

Semantics aside, I don't think I've ever heard you willingly bring up the evils of tobacco or alcohol, and they're FAR larger public safety hazards. Also, that Harvard study seemed to be drawing some pretty sketchy links...I'm too tired to clearly say what I mean atm. Going to bed...

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:13 am**

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Fuck no, ban both.

DEAL! Shake on it.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:24 am**

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote: Don't go shifting goal posts on me champ. We were talking about Gwamps. He lives in Florida.

I'm not talking about gramps, I've been asking you from the first post in this thread about why you think owning a gun makes someone a redneck. You've also consistently raved against gun ownership in many other threads over the years and I'm pointing out what the realities and showing what the relevant laws are from the country we both live in.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:29 am**

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote: Fuck no, ban both.

For an anarchist, you sure do like laws...

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:31 am**

Tormentius wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote: Don't go shifting goal posts on me champ. We were talking about Gwamps. He lives in Florida.
I'm not talking about gramps, I've been asking you from the first post in this thread about why you think owning a gun makes someone a redneck. You've also consistently raved against gun ownership in many other threads over the years and I'm pointing out what the realities and showing what the relevant laws are from the country we both live in.

Owning a gun does not necessarily make one a redneck but it can be a contributing factor.

A lot of my opinion on this regarding YGP is based on his previous posts. For example:

PostPosted: 12-04-2007 06:49 PM

Doombrain wrote:
YourGrandpa wrote:
I've got an SKS, sister to the AK47. It really is fun to shoot. I've also got a Glock 27 and a Kel-Tec P-11 that I haven't got to shoot.

all power to you, but it's not for me. i wouldn't have any guns like that in my house.

Gun safe ++

Soon the wife and I will have our concealed weapons permits and be able to carry full time. I most likely won't carry, but my wife is small and travels with our son a lot and I want her to be able to fend off baddies.

We've got a gun safe and the guns are always locked up. The key is also hidden. I'm not so worried about home invasion as I have a monitored security system and I live in a great neighborhood. So there is no reason to leave a gun where my son or one of his friends will get it.

You have to be smart to avoid becoming a statistic.

Then I point out that hidden keys can be found and gwamps doesn't even think i could be referring to his son.

Yes they can. But as long as my family and I aren't home when they're found, there's nothing I can do. When my son becomes wise enough to start looking, the keys will go with the wife and I. He will also be educated about the danger and use of guns.

Ask him how old his son was when he wrote that.

So yes YGP + guns + other stuff = red neck.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:35 am**

Geebs wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote: Fuck no, ban both.
For an anarchist, you sure do like laws...

Not overly familiar with anarchist philosophy are you? Also I wasn't exactly seriously trying to explain my position with 4 words.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:41 am**

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
Ask him how old his son was when he wrote that.

So yes YGP + guns + other stuff = red neck.

Fucking finally, a straight answer. If your issue is with YGP fine, my point is that not all gun owners are rednecks nor are they all irresponsible twats such as the ones in the article you posted.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:45 am**

Tormentius wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:So to sum it up, YGP is a redneck because he thinks Amurka is God's gift to the world, he is incapable of and uninterested in, understanding the views of others, he keeps guns in his house despite the risk of his child unlocking the cabinet and then blowing himself or another away. And generally, he's dumb and loves consumption.

If proper (eg. legally required) precautions are followed theres no chance of that. So, to sum it up, you don't have the first fucking clue about the topic other than what alternet and gun control sites spoon feed you.

Edit: Proper safety precautions such as trigger locks and separate locked ammunition inside a locked gun vault keep any responsible owner's firearms as safe as possible. Considering the amount of firearms owned in this country the number of accidental deaths are small and far outweighed by cars, smoking, drinking, obesity, heart disease, biking, the list goes on and on. Its irresponsible twats that don't use the proper safeguards that cause the vast majority of problems but the same is true anything in life (eg. drunk driving, etc).

I think i was pretty clear in my post to begin with. I didn't imply that all gun owners are red necks you can see I gave specific reasons which have remained consistent so get off my dick and stop reading things into what Iève actually said.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:46 am**

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
Geebs wrote: For an anarchist, you sure do like laws...
Not overly familiar with anarchist philosophy are you? Also I wasn't exactly seriously trying to explain my position with 4 words.

Heh, most anarchists can't agree what anarchism is... it's every man for himself, I tell you!

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 9:58 am**

Fucken Redneck.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:05 am**

this got blown out like a porn star's asshole REAL quick....

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:40 am**

Shit, this is nothing. Go read the old thread that GFY posted in his 'MidnightQ4' thread.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 11:42 am**

lol guns = rednecks. faggotry abounds.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:34 pm**

I have (2) gun safes. (1) is a locking safe that is for rifles and (1) is a small combination safe for pistols. I'm really not sure what Puff is on about. I keep my guns locked up when they're not in my possession...

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:46 pm**

Did someone help you write that, red neck?

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:50 pm**

Just stick to calling me a redneck. You seem to be able to handle that.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:55 pm**

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:I fear for his son's safety what can I tell ya.

lol

You think he'll listen or even care. Doubly so since you're not American.

Gramps don't need no parental advice. Especially from some feriner jew.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 3:59 pm**

obligatory post of dumb flabby shirtless redneck 'flexing'

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:10 pm**

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:Did someone help you write that, red neck?

It was the bracket quota police.

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:42 pm**

lol, epic thread

almost as rare as Sgt Hickpa stringing two or more consecutive thoughts together in a coherent way

*grabs extra popcorn*

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:02 pm**

GONNAFISTYA wrote: I wasn't an America basher until AFTER I learned that the US has been a true force for evil in the world for the past 130 fucking years.

same reason why i bash england, russia, and germany. canada is just for fun though

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:04 pm**

*insert France left out joke*

Posted: **Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:07 pm**

france hasn't fucked up the world and killed hundreds of millions of people. they get left out.

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