The final 9/11 conspiracy thread

Post by **R00k** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:51 pm

Er, how does the FAA/NORAD normally request intercepttion for flights that veer off course or stop responding? This has been happening for years, so I'm not sure which part you're referring to when you say difficulty in communications.

Suspect flights are escorted by fighters all the time when they appear to be suspicious, and it doesn't take long to happen.

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 5:58 pm

R00k wrote:
HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
R00k wrote: Did you read the pdf I linked up there?

http://www.implosionworld.com/Article-W ... -06%20.pdf
pretty conclusive
There are still a couple of things I am grappling with, but it is conclusive about many things that weren't clear before.

Very good article. Thanks for the link.

It does indeed clear up a lot of things.

FFS...I read freak's post and couldn't believe it was him posting either....considering there weren't any "r u stoopid" remarks.

Post by **iluvquake4** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:00 pm

Articles in pdf format are always right. It's a known fact on the Internet.

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:12 pm

Nightshade wrote:That's why I said it's a bit sketchy. Remember, I believe that the US government knew it was coming, but I don't necessarily believe that they assisted in any way.

Considering the NORAD situation...I'm of the opinion that there was probably a "distraction" (planned exercises) planned wherein alot of assets purposefully weren't in proper position to deal with real threats. Dunno. Why else did they all have their pants down that day?

So I guess the US did in fact assist the terrorists in some way...at least to the point of letting the hijackers take the planes wherever they wanted without challenge.

I agree with you that the US goverment saw it coming....hell they probably knew which day given that the intelligence community was convinced something was gonna happen (even though the White House chose to ignore it)...so I don't think that it's that far of a stretch to ask if perhaps they "opened the door" for the ISLAMOFACISTCRAZYBEARDEDMEN.

Just a thought.

I still don't know what the fuck happened that day in terms of the spectacular success of the terrorist act itself....but it seems as if all the odds and Gods were on their side that day to allow them to (mostly) accomplish their suicide missions.

It's either that or the vaunted "National Security Apparatus" that they've spent all that money on isn't worth a fart in a windstorm. It's like trying to kill an ant with a rocket launcher and still missing every fucking shot.

Post by **iluvquake4** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:13 pm

Blah, blah, blah .. and therefore, blah, blah, blah ... which brings me to the point of blah, blah, blah, and so obviously blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:15 pm

Nightshade wrote: And no, with a handheld GPS and a few hours at MS Flight Simulator it wouldn't be hard at all to find a building and hit it.

No bullshit....after getting home from work that day I loaded MS Flight Simulator and crashed a Boeing 757 into either WTC tower 1 or 2. It wasn't that hard.

Post by **iluvquake4** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:17 pm

So they had a copy of MS flight simulator, laptops, and usb connections, hooked into the airplane computers. That explains it all.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:18 pm

iluvquake4 wrote:Blah, blah, blah .. and therefore, blah, blah, blah ... which brings me to the point of blah, blah, blah, and so obviously blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

this summarizes you neatly. you really shouldn't feel bothered to post anything else (ever) thanks

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:36 pm

R00k wrote: I do find it very plausible though, that another outside intelligence service may have very well been facilitating the operation the whole time - could have even been assuring our own government to trust them, because they had it infiltrated and well in control.

which country are you thinking of here?

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:40 pm

Perhaps he's thinking of the one that starts with an I and ends with L and is full of Jew?

Post by **seremtan** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:45 pm

GONNAFISTYA wrote:
Nightshade wrote: And no, with a handheld GPS and a few hours at MS Flight Simulator it wouldn't be hard at all to find a building and hit it.
No bullshit....after getting home from work that day I loaded MS Flight Simulator and crashed a Boeing 757 into either WTC tower 1 or 2. It wasn't that hard.

lol, really?

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:46 pm

I didn't want to be presumptuous.

Post by **R00k** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:50 pm

I had Mossad in mind when I posted that. But mainly because they are the only country who we would allow to operate a foreign intelligence network inside the US.

There is historic precedent for it already.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:56 pm

do you really believe any nation would cede control over a security matter of that importance to a foreign power no matter how good friends they are? These guys were on American soil.

Post by **iluvquake4** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:57 pm

:icon29:

Post by **4days** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 6:58 pm

iluvquake4 wrote::icon29:

stop posting. it's that fucking simple.

Post by **iluvquake4** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:00 pm

:icon27:

Post by **R00k** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:00 pm

lol, are you kidding? Look how much influence Israel has on our policy already.

I wouldn't quite say that they decide where our kids get shipped off to, but Israel is to our politicians what a dick is to other men - they love it and want to please it, and quite often it does their thinking for them.

Likud, Likud, Likud.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:01 pm

and do you have any evidence to back up your suspicions?

Post by **iluvquake4** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:04 pm

evidence on the internet

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:06 pm

iluvquake4 wrote:evidence on the internet

holy fucking retard

good going

Post by **iluvquake4** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:10 pm

the short yellow bus is stopping at this thread

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:13 pm

seremtan wrote:
GONNAFISTYA wrote: No bullshit....after getting home from work that day I loaded MS Flight Simulator and crashed a Boeing 757 into either WTC tower 1 or 2. It wasn't that hard.
lol, really?

True story dat. :icon25:

Post by **R00k** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:18 pm

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:and do you have any evidence to back up your suspicions?

As a start (discussion is in regards to Congress' report on intelligence failures on 9/11):

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/congress ... 12-11.html

GWEN IFILL: Senator Graham, are there elements in this report, which are classified that Americans should know about but can't?

SEN. BOB GRAHAM: Yes, going back to your question about what was the greatest surprise. I agree with what Senator Shelby said the degree to which agencies were not communicating was certainly a surprise but also I was surprised at the evidence that there were foreign governments involved in facilitating the activities of at least some of the terrorists in the United States.

I am stunned that we have not done a better job of pursuing that to determine if other terrorists received similar support and, even more important, if the infrastructure of a foreign government assisting terrorists still exists for the current generation of terrorists who are here planning the next plots.

To me that is an extremely significant issue and most of that information is classified, I think overly-classified. I believe the American people should know the extent of the challenge that we face in terms of foreign government involvement. That would motivate the government to take action.

GWEN IFILL: Are you suggesting that you are convinced that there was a state sponsor behind 9/11?

SEN. BOB GRAHAM: I think there is very compelling evidence that at least some of the terrorists were assisted not just in financing -- although that was part of it -- by a sovereign foreign government and that we have been derelict in our duty to track that down, make the further case, or find the evidence that would indicate that that is not true and we can look for other reasons why the terrorists were able to function so effectively in the United States.

Post by **HM-PuFFNSTuFF** » Tue Oct 17, 2006 7:20 pm

he's referring to the transfer of money from the ISI (Pakistan) not Israel to Mohammed Atta no?