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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:41 am
by RiffRaff
tnf wrote:
Pooinyourmouth_needmerge wrote:I missed the part where this turned into a "let's all hate america" thread.

You should see what happens in mexico if you refuse to cooperate the first time. Or better yet try south africa.
No no...remember, for the sake of convenience we assume that bad things don't happen outside of America. The other countries have rivers of chocolate where it rains candy and the kids run around playing with gumdrop smiles...

or something like that.
:lol: England has Willy Wonka's chocolate factory!

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:41 am
by +JuggerNaut+
tnf wrote:
Pooinyourmouth_needmerge wrote:I missed the part where this turned into a "let's all hate america" thread.

You should see what happens in mexico if you refuse to cooperate the first time. Or better yet try south africa.
No no...remember, for the sake of convenience we assume that bad things don't happen outside of America. The other countries have rivers of chocolate where it rains candy and the kids run around playing with gumdrop smiles...

or something like that.
America:

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Every other country:

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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:42 am
by mjrpes
I eat other countries for breakfast, apparently.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:46 am
by MaCaBr3
Oh btw here is the full video of the arrests for closing this thread once and forever:

Like I said, I never strongely dissagreed about the use of the taser in this video, because I (or anyone else who watched the video for that matter) because we lack the the live experience of the situation (if that makes sence) and we only see one angle. Now that you will find out more about it. I understand the cops position.

And I'm not cop hater FFS.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/conte ... ideo1.html

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:46 am
by RiffRaff
Jackal wrote:He TAZORED the lady! For Christ's sake, when did something like that become "perfectly reasonable given the situation"?
Better question. You're the cop, what would you have done?

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:47 am
by RiffRaff
MaCaBr3 wrote:Oh btw here is the full video of the arrests for closing this thread once and forever:

Like I said, I never strongely dissagreed about the use of the taser in this video, because I (or anyone else who watched the video for that matter) because we lack the personal obversation of the situation. Now that you will find out more about it. I understand the cops positions.

And I'm not cop hater FFS.

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/conte ... ideo1.html
Good debate MaCaBr3.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:51 am
by MaCaBr3
Btw, for everyone who got annoyed by her screaming: don't watch it, because it gets worse.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:57 am
by +JuggerNaut+
MaCaBr3 wrote:Btw, for everyone who got annoyed by her screaming: don't watch it, because it gets worse.
or watch it, and mute your speakers. i turned mine up and added a Hall effect.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:59 am
by MaCaBr3
Should try it with delay.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:01 am
by YourGrandpa
Jackal wrote:He TAZORED the lady! For Christ's sake, when did something like that become "perfectly reasonable given the situation"?
WTF does gender have to do with anything. A woman could kill you just as easily as a man. There's a simple appraoch to this situation. If she's stupid enough to resist, she's stupid enough to pull a trigger. There's no time for guessing when you're faced with that type of person.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:28 am
by rep
mjrpes wrote:
rep wrote:
mjrpes wrote: I missed the part where the cops didn't abide by the law.
I missed the part where the woman did something worthy of such a takedown.
I missed the part where the woman followed the cop's clear and precise orders that she would be tazered unless she immediately exited the vehicle.
I watched the entire clip(s) which wasn't provided before. Their use of force was excessive for the situation. They should have had more patience.

People get tasered for a suspended license? Where's my Ice T CD?

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:38 am
by tnf
rep wrote:
mjrpes wrote:
rep wrote: I missed the part where the woman did something worthy of such a takedown.
I missed the part where the woman followed the cop's clear and precise orders that she would be tazered unless she immediately exited the vehicle.
I watched the entire clip(s) which wasn't provided before. Their use of force was excessive for the situation. They should have had more patience.

People get tasered for a suspended license? Where's my Ice T CD?

yea, she was just tasered for having a suspended license. that was it, no provocation, no nothing. she did everything as she should have. poor lady.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 5:59 am
by busetibi
the cop asked her twice to put the phone down and get out of the car,
he opened the door and by the sounds of it,(she saying,get off me,dont touch me) he tried to manhandle her out, he then tells her 4 times to get out of the car or he will tazer her, she still refuses.
so.... 6 times she was told to get out of the car, and she chose to ignore him...
got what she deserved imho

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:05 am
by ALLiED
Suspended licence/ 51 in a 35 / Cracked windshield / Tail light out.

If you don't comply the officer has the right to use force, the cop is not going to stand their waiting until the dumb cunt is off the phone.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:10 am
by Dave
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Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:12 am
by ALLiED
lol Was wondering when someone whould say it. :icon19:

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:18 am
by Keep It Real
police brutality is a real problem

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:20 am
by Grudge
fat bitch got what she deserved

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:24 am
by Ryoki
mjrpes wrote: You have to admit that something like this would never happen in your country. But not because the police in your country would use excessive force, but because no one in your country is that fucking stupid to disobey a cop.
They'd probably handle the situation by talking and talking until the lady exits the vehicle. And the lady would give them zero respect (because you've never seen an authority figure with so little authority as a dutch cop) and they'd shrug it off and fine her.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 8:33 am
by Oldfriend
Psyche911 wrote:
Canidae wrote:
Psyche911 wrote:Like I said before. He overreacted.

Go quote someone else if you're gonna argue with the people thinking that she deserved it. I don't share that opinion.

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Just a few of those in there for good measure, so I can be cool like you.
Well first of all you have no fucking clue what she did to get pulled over. Perhaps you might want to factor that in.
lol
That's what I get for taking the middle ground. Why don't you bitch to GONNA or somebody.
atleast win enemies you know where they stand, damn neutrals are the ones to watch out for :icon32:

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:01 am
by +JuggerNaut+
Keep It Real wrote:police brutality is a real problem
sure is. let us know when you see some.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:04 am
by saturn
tnf wrote:
Was it funny? Maybe not completely (although for people in this forum to take the moral high road about the appropriateness of things that are laughed at is pretty astonishing...).

And yea, it's only use folks in the USA that seem to be insensitive to violence on these forums. The threads from all other parts of the world are always so much more appropriate and considerate of the feelings of all parties involved. We are just hardened like that. :rolleyes:
oh, so when I'm amazed by the attitude of replies of some people I'm taking the moral high road? I'm glad that I'm still sensitive for cop-related violence, I'm glad that I don't live in South-Africa or Colombia where the cops also have to take extreme cautions and measures in their daily routines.

Now I have to read the rest of this thread before posting more comments.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:05 am
by +JuggerNaut+
saturn wrote:
tnf wrote:
Was it funny? Maybe not completely (although for people in this forum to take the moral high road about the appropriateness of things that are laughed at is pretty astonishing...).

And yea, it's only use folks in the USA that seem to be insensitive to violence on these forums. The threads from all other parts of the world are always so much more appropriate and considerate of the feelings of all parties involved. We are just hardened like that. :rolleyes:
oh, so when I'm amazed by the attitude of replies of some people I'm taking the moral high road? I'm glad that I'm still sensitive for cop-related violence, I'm glad that I don't live in South-Africa or Colombia where the cops also have to take extreme cautions and measures in their daily routines.

Now I have to read the rest of this thread before posting more comments.
hey, don't forget the pictures.

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:06 am
by saturn
tnf wrote:Plus, I am pretty sure a lot of that screaming was just her excessive nature anyhow. That lady would have put on a show with screaming and moaning if they had done nothing but gently put her in handcuffs. Granted, she was probably not feeling too hot, and I think the initial screaming was definitely the result of pain (and probably of surprise and shock - pun intended) but the way she kept carrying on made me think of a 2 year old that really has no reason to cry, but is going to do their damndest to keep trying. Or perhaps she's just loud naturally.
lol, let me taser me you in your kidneys and see how you react, tough man :icon26:

(I had to reply to this one)

Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:14 am
by saturn
mjrpes wrote:
saturn wrote:I suppose this unnecessary excessive violence is funny in an inherently violent society.

gawd, you americans are really fucked up
You have to admit that something like this would never happen in your country. But not because the police in your country would use excessive force, but because no one in your country is that fucking stupid to disobey a cop.
lol.....Dutch cops would have talked her to sleep/death. They wouldn't have pulled out their sticks/tazers after asking her a few times. Of course she should have listened, but the reaction of cops is of a pre-emptive paranoid nature. And probably needed in your country, apparently from what I've been reading in this thread and have seen in Hollywood movies and Police-chase-TV-series. :icon26: