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R00k wrote:

tnf wrote:Funny that a picture like that gets a laugh from the same hypocritical bunch of folks that get their shit in a twist over the supposed pics of soldiers standing over mutilated bodies and how terrible it is...

hypocrisy++.

but at the same time predictable. It's all about sympathizing with the most popular group of victims at the time...laugh at birth defects.., pity the muslim citizens, etc....

wasn't it goof that posted the pic laughing about how dumb the british soldiers are (the pic with the guy on fire...)?

I didn't blow the baby's arms off and then laugh about them being gone, then imply that all babies' arms should be blown off, which is the behavior I was criticizing.

And for what it's worth, I still felt bad for laughing at the picture. Even though I have no way of knowing if that is a real baby with that condition, or if it's just a photoshop job like every other forum-joke-jpeg that gets posted.

Either you completely misunderstood the point I was trying to make, or you're lashing out at me because of some generalization you've made about me, because my stance isn't what you described.

And for the record, I don't think there's anything funny about dead or deformed people, but I admit have had quite a few guilty laughs throughout my life at off-colored jokes about such things because they struck me funny -- not because I thought it was funny that a baby was born deformed. I don't think that necessarily makes me a bad person or a hypocrite.

tnf wrote:

seremtan wrote:

tnf wrote: yea foo, believe that.

there aren't any. I guess I don't have my finger on the pulse of this community and their tendencies quite like you do.

phantom justification...jesus christ we have 5 years plus of posting histories to look at....apparently, though, not finding any humor whatsoever in a baby with no arms has offended you...

i didn't find anything funny about that picture

in any case, there's a big difference between "look ma, no arms due to a birth defect" and "look ma, no arms due to them being blown off by an american cluster bomb in a war for greed and power". neither are terribly funny, but they are terribly different

the issue here isn't about them being different - the bottom line is that it is selective sympathy for tragedy based on what bandwagon one feels like being on.

For example - folks posted pics making fun of the Katrina victims here...the black guys with the watermelons in the shopping carts, etc, all with laughs abounding....

If I were to post pics making fun of Iraqis who had fell victim to a bomb, whatever, folks would shit in their hats...

Just explain to me - why is it ok to laugh at a baby with no arms, or to laugh a mentally retarded kid running in a race, or whatever, but completely out of line to make jokes about other tragedies?

I work with kids that face those types of challenges every day, and deal with the pricks who make fun of them too, and the bottom line is - kids with problems like that who make it to school every day despite the comments, laughing, etc., have more nuts than the collective lot of the folks who do PS jobs to get a quick laugh at their misfortune.

this isn't about the difference between being born with no arms and being blown up by an American soldier. It's about why it is OK to laugh at one, but not about the other.

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