Nintendo unveils the Revolution(ary) controller

Post by **Transient** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:54 am

Well I liked it because nothing beats it when playing an FPS. Turok and Goldeneye were very easy to control compared to PS2/XBox. The only thing that beats it is plugging in a USB mouse/keyboard.

Post by **Foo** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:56 am

Hopefully we'll be able to set up this new controller to behave like a mouse.

I'm worried tho that this thing will lead to an influx of Sega bass fishing titles and similar =/

Post by **saturn** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:08 am

lol, more wrist action for nerds :>

Post by **dzjepp** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:15 am

ZIIIIIING

Post by **Foo** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:46 am

saturn wrote:lol, more wrist action for nerds :>

I couldn't help noticing that you gas people for a living.

Post by **Mr.Magnetichead** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:55 am

Foo wrote:Hopefully we'll be able to set up this new controller to behave like a mouse.

I'm worried tho that this thing will lead to an influx of Sega bass fishing titles and similar =/

It's a mouse but in 3d. Imagine an FPS with super physics likes HL2 where the wand actually represents an object moving through space in the game.

Post by **eepberries** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:47 pm

Gamecube controller > N64 controller

Post by **shadd_** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:08 am

you nintendo geeks seen this yet?

http://cube.ign.com/articles/651/651559p1.html

ingenious way to create a stir. show only half of it, sit back and watch . lol

Post by **eepberries** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:08 am

That image was created by IGN as like a "maybe this is how they will do it" sort of thing.

Post by **shadd_** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 3:10 am

yeah thats in the article but confirmed by nintendo that there will be a "shell" to play with a traditional controller.

Post by **[FTF]Pyro** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:09 am

It looks so fucking crappy I aint buying one out of principle.

I mean really. A remote control with a crappy thumbstick attached to it. Really who the fuck are nintendo kiddening

"we want to capture the hearts and minds of those that have never played consoles before and a remote is the most natural thing"

What a crock of shit. People that havent played games before but want to get into it will buy a PS3 cause its from Sony.

anytime nintendo or any other company for that matter come up with a crappy controller it goes straight in the bin.

see - Power Glove

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:40 am

wow... i thought nintendo had gone loony after the DS, and the frist time i saw a pic of that, i was in full WTF? mode... but after watching the presentation on gamespot: (open in media player to stream) http://www.gamespot.com/live/stream_asx ... er_1_4.asx
i'm actually quite impressed. I just hope the games take full advantage of the capabilites. It will only be a gimick if developers don't make anything for it... then it will go the way of Rob and the glove.
seems like nintendo is the only game company willing to take risks anymore. bravo :icon14:

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:50 am

Eraser wrote: Same goes for an analogue stick when it was introduced with the N64.

I understand you are a nintendo fanboy... but please keep your facts straight. The N64 was launched a full 2 years after the psx had two analoge sticks.

Post by **Dr_Watson** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 5:57 am

Scarface wrote:I think it's a great idea for a different twist on gameplay, baseball games, fighting games ( i.e. swords etc ), even fps will be different. I like the idea, as long as the games can impliment it properly

oof... i just had a thought that would be a cool idea for that controler. anyone remember a game called "die by the sword". was a crappy action game with a really amazing idea for sword play. you could swing the sword in any direction and various speeds to hack and slash, and make up your own combinations and killing moves. It was the only reason to play the game... but using a keyboard or pad was so combersome it kinda killed the fun.
this would be pure gold with that gyro remote.

Post by **Foo** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 6:24 am

Dr_Watson wrote:
Eraser wrote: Same goes for an analogue stick when it was introduced with the N64.
I understand you are a nintendo fanboy... but please keep your facts straight. The N64 was launched a full 2 years after the psx had two analoge sticks.

The standard PS pad didn't feature analog sticks. It only became standard with the PS2.

Post by **Fury** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:12 am

Mr.Magnetichead wrote: Aggggh imagine a Star Wars dueling game with this thing.

same impression i had
. I'll need to fiddle with this before i decide how good/bad it i, i'm getting revo almost entirely for the old game thing, which still depends on whether or not their charging for it.

Post by **zewulf** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:20 am

Foo wrote:The standard PS pad didn't feature analog sticks. It only became standard with the PS2.

The original PSX pad didn't have any sticks, but after the big N introduced the N64 controller, Sony came out with the Dual Shock controller (which did become the standard pad for the PSX). In fact, there were two versions of the PSX Dual Shock. The first version had no rumble motors (so technically you can't call it a Dual Shock, but it was lighter due to the lack of the motors) and had slander and more elongated handle bars than the 2nd version. The 2nd version, which came out shortly after the first version, was of course the one that had the rumble feature, and Sony kept the shape/size of this version for the Dual Shock 2 for the PS2.

BTW, I have all 3 versions of the PSX controller

Post by **glossy** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 8:23 am

shadd_ wrote:yeah thats in the article but confirmed by nintendo that there will be a "shell" to play with a traditional controller.

the GameCube controller is complete shit

Post by **Eraser** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:26 am

glossy wrote:
shadd_ wrote:yeah thats in the article but confirmed by nintendo that there will be a "shell" to play with a traditional controller.
the GameCube controller is complete shit

I think it's actually pretty nice. It just sucks for fighting games and the little C-stick was bollocks, but it looks like the Rev shell will have a normal stick for the c-stick, which is much better.

Post by **Don Carlos** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 11:57 am

The best controller ever made was the PS2 pad
I could use for for hours and my hands would
not ache in the slightest

Post by **Don Carlos** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:04 pm

Don Carlos wrote:
Mr.Magnetichead wrote:
Don Carlos wrote:Sorry, but having to plug other bits of a pad into it?
Just seems like a waste of time
Microsoft used this tech in a pad ages ago
and it was also really wank. Not the revolution people were thinking.
Did you watch the demo video?

Also WHEN exactlly did microsoft do this?
http://www.joystickreview.com/microsoft ... ylepro.asp

about 1999 :icon26:

U still have yet to comment on this Eraser...
Not trollin, i just want to see what u think?

Post by **o'dium** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:06 pm

Don Carlos wrote:The best controller ever made was the PS2 pad
I could use for for hours and my hands would
not ache in the slightest

*Barf*

I disagree. Somebody needs to tell Sony about "deadzone". Those sticks just flop about the place making it impossible to hit anything, and i get cramps way to easy playing with it.

X-Bo pad all the way, and as a very close second, the WaveBird.

Post by **Eraser** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:28 pm

Don Carlos wrote:
Don Carlos wrote:
Mr.Magnetichead wrote: Did you watch the demo video?

Also WHEN exactlly did microsoft do this?
http://www.joystickreview.com/microsoft ... ylepro.asp

about 1999 :icon26:
U still have yet to comment on this Eraser...
Not trollin, i just want to see what u think?

It's interesting, but quite different.

It's a PC peripheral, so it's pickup rate is obviously a lot lower. Doing crazy things like this for a PC is a lot less good idea than doing it for a home console.

Also marketing behind this thing was probably a lot less strong than behind a console like the Revolution. Another thing is that, since it's for the PC, and not every PC gamer has one, developers will never create games that require the thing.

That's why the thing was doomed to fail. They're just completely different circumstances than the Revolution.

Post by **Eraser** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:29 pm

o'dium wrote:and as a very close second, the WaveBird.

Again innovation by Nintendo.
They were the first to do a wireless controller.
Now look at the next gen. All three consoles have wireless controllers by default.

Post by **o'dium** » Sun Sep 18, 2005 12:33 pm

Eraser wrote:
o'dium wrote:and as a very close second, the WaveBird.
Again innovation by Nintendo.
They were the first to do a wireless controller.
Now look at the next gen. All three consoles have wireless controllers by default.

They wasn't the first. the ps2 and xbox both had unoffical controllers out a good year before the wavebird hit. Not offical, but still, it wasn't some massive thing they invented.