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true :)

30$ is a joke.
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Bdw3 wrote:Looks like a bunch of cheapo stainless wall hangers that only cost about $20 anyway. :icon14:


Edit: Here's some nice stuff:
http://www.casiberia.com/
http://www.j-armory.com/
http://www.kriscutlery.com/company/Prod ... _Menu.html

And here is some amazing stuff:
http://www.bugei.com/
i masturbate to the bugei catalog.
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:icon28: I was so going to decorate my whole room with an oriental theme in mind. I'm gonna buy a a couple hundred dollars worth of swords. :D
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SplishSplash wrote:Go here for good info:

http://home.earthlink.net/~steinrl/
the info on fakes is great. i dont think i've seen any fakes on bugei tho. if you know of any please point em out.
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Fury wrote:
SplishSplash wrote:Go here for good info:

http://home.earthlink.net/~steinrl/
the info on fakes is great. i dont think i've seen any fakes on bugei tho. if you know of any please point em out.
Well, the price alone indicates that these aren't made in the traditional (read: very work-intensive and expensive) way imo.
Can't say for sure, but I can guarantee that a true collector would look down on those. Which says nothing about their sharpness or sturdyness though.
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SplishSplash wrote:
Fury wrote:
SplishSplash wrote:Go here for good info:

http://home.earthlink.net/~steinrl/
the info on fakes is great. i dont think i've seen any fakes on bugei tho. if you know of any please point em out.
Well, the price alone indicates that these aren't made in the traditional (read: very work-intensive and expensive) way imo.
Can't say for sure, but I can guarantee that a true collector would look down on those. Which says nothing about their sharpness or sturdyness though.
absolutely, checking the forging process the early folds are done by a repeating hammer before being finished off by hand, instead of the whole process being handmade. some of the vendors in that site you linked have stunning work. especially the shirasayas.
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Well it's obvious those are all cheap fakes but as it stands I have no plans of going on a mass murder sword swinging spree so a fake sword on my wall will look as good as a real one. :smirk:
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Kracus wrote:Well it's obvious those are all cheap fakes but as it stands I have no plans of going on a mass murder sword swinging spree so a fake sword on my wall will look as good as a real one. :smirk:
not really... the real ones on your wall look like works of art, the fake ones look like flea market trash.
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Yes, but I'd rather not have the things hanging on my walls worth more than the walls themselves.
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i guess you have a point there.
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SplishSplash wrote:
Fury wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:unless ur buying a sword with plans on using it in battle...ur just a nerdy pussy lotr fagot...

any questions?
the LOTR folk would prefer the medieval swords or cheesy knock-offs. a properly made katana is a work of art and craftsmanship thats barely seen these days. and hell when jihad hits home it's nice to have a personal decapitator.
You don't buy properly made katanas from internet shops.
And you don't buy them for less than $10,000. If it costs less, it's 99% bullshit.
who gives a fuck? which cunt is actually gonna spend this amount of cash on something you buy purely to hang it on the wall? seriously, you cant go Zatoichi on people with them just because you feel like it now can you?

dunno, but I think owning one is prohibited here, but Im gonna see if it clears the Dutch customs service :D
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Massive Quasars wrote:
Fury wrote:
Freakaloin wrote:unless ur buying a sword with plans on using it in battle...ur just a nerdy pussy lotr fagot...

any questions?
the LOTR folk would prefer the medieval swords or cheesy knock-offs. a properly made katana is a work of art and craftsmanship thats barely seen these days. and hell when jihad hits home it's nice to have a personal decapitator.
When jihad hits home, be sure you join the right team.
yes, the team that crushes the 'jihad' like an ant
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Post by SplishSplash »

I was once fascinated by the sharpness and deadliness of Japanese swords. (After seeing Kill Bill to be exact.)

But after I did some research, what fascinated me most about japanese swords is their age and history.

Some blades are over or close to 1000 years old, have killed numerous people, went through so many hands and still look great today.

If I ever bought a katana (or nihonto or whatever you prefer to call them) it would have to be one that's at least a couple hundred years old, with papers, documentation on the smith and history of the sword, and all that jazz.
I don't think I'll ever buy one though, cause it's really just a stupid piece of metal.
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Post by losCHUNK »

i like this type of stuff

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i like samurai swords, got 2 myself but i prefer these types as i think they have more style ;)
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dmmh wrote:who gives a fuck? which cunt is actually gonna spend this amount of cash on something you buy purely to hang it on the wall? seriously, you cant go Zatoichi on people with them just because you feel like it now can you?

dunno, but I think owning one is prohibited here, but Im gonna see if it clears the Dutch customs service :D
There is no point in posting in a (serious) thread if you have nothing to contribute.
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losCHUNK wrote: i like samurai swords, got 2 myself but i prefer these types as i think they have more style ;)
This has nothing to do with your funky replica swords, but is interesting anyway imo:

It is a common misconception that Japanese swords are far superior to all other swords. In fact, the Japanese only refined the Chinese art of sword-making. (They did a good job at it though.)

And this is from Wikipedia:
It is a commonly-encountered article of faith that katanas are intrinsically superior to European swords. This belief is frequently bolstered by roleplaying games that assign superior statistics to katanas, and also by many movies. However, these claims are largely based on misunderstandings about the manufacture and role of European swords, and comparing the schools on their worst examples instead of their best.

Because Japan was an iron-poor society, making a sword was an intrinsically expensive undertaking; the supply of swords was limited, and so it was in the smiths' interest to make the most of the materials they could afford. Europe also had superlative swordsmiths; Toledo steel swords from Spain are one example of legendary quality swords from outside Japan. However, the greater availability of iron made it practical to produce cheap, low-quality weapons in large quantities. Where Europeans had the choice between expensive good swords and cheap bad swords, Japanese had the choice between expensive good swords or none at all.

European swords were also designed for different modes of combat. The katana's sharpness makes it an excellent cutting weapon, suitable for use against lightly-armoured opponents, but easily damaged when used against heavier armour. In this light, the relative bluntness of a good European sword is due less to the limitations of its maker than to the requirements of its use. Attempting to establish the superiority of the one over the other is ultimately meaningless without first defining the circumstances in which they are to be compared.
Interesting article on Toledo swords:
http://www.aceros-de-hispania.com/toledo-swords.htm
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here's me swordfighting some chick who wouldn't stop uulating in the movie theatre.
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SplishSplash wrote:
dmmh wrote:who gives a fuck? which cunt is actually gonna spend this amount of cash on something you buy purely to hang it on the wall? seriously, you cant go Zatoichi on people with them just because you feel like it now can you?

dunno, but I think owning one is prohibited here, but Im gonna see if it clears the Dutch customs service :D
There is no point in posting in a (serious) thread if you have nothing to contribute.
its my thread, I can do with it whatever I fuckin please
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Ryoki wrote:Feedback, are you saying the dream is no more? :tear:
Yeah, the dream is going to the deep sleep. :icon7:
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