what is happening to America?

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[xeno]Julios
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Post by [xeno]Julios »

Maiden wrote:pesticide
right, but what sort of experiments are they gonna do?

they gonna stick kids in glass chambers and see how much pesticide it takes to kill them?

what substances are they gonna test and how?
AmIdYfReAk
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Post by AmIdYfReAk »

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:that's it. Canada, here i come.
beter.
-Replicant-
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Post by -Replicant- »

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote:
-Replicant- wrote:look at the date on it...
nov 17th
whoops, the way its formatted it looks like december :P
Maiden
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Post by Maiden »

[xeno]Julios wrote:
Maiden wrote:pesticide
right, but what sort of experiments are they gonna do?

they gonna stick kids in glass chambers and see how much pesticide it takes to kill them?

what substances are they gonna test and how?
dont know what they want to do, but i think most of the testing in the past has the pesticides injested. I think it is all done in pretty small amounts since they are looking for a level where they can first begin to see effect so they know how much of this crap they can put in our food.
bitWISE
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Post by bitWISE »

Clones would be perfect for testing IMO
Canidae
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Post by Canidae »

This is weird. When I woke up this morning I was thinking of posting a thread here called "When did America go wrong?"
I even talked to someone about what it was going to be about.
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+JuggerNaut+
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Post by +JuggerNaut+ »

bitWISE wrote:Clones would be perfect for testing IMO
yes, because they're not human and therefore, disposable. do i really need to finish with the icon? no.
Dukester
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Post by Dukester »

SUPPLEMENTARY INFORMATION: This proposed rule, the first of several possible Agency actions, would significantly strengthen the ethical framework for conducting and reviewing human studies, especially intentional dosing human studies for pesticides.

Did anyone actually read the document at

http://www.epa.gov/fedrgstr/EPA-GENERAL ... g18010.htm

or did you just read the

http://www.organicconsumers.org/epa6.cfm

just wondering?
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Post by Guest »

Just test it on people who want to be tested on and pay them money. Like trailor trash.
Maiden
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Post by Maiden »

thats what they have been doing
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AWSOME!!!! Eugenics here we come!
HM-PuFFNSTuFF
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Post by HM-PuFFNSTuFF »

'Cheney is vice president for torture'
11.35PM, Thu Nov 17 2005

A former CIA director has exclusively told ITV News that torture is condoned and even approved by the Bush government.

The devastating accusations have been made by Admiral Stansfield Turner who labelled Dick Cheney "a vice president for torture".

He said: "We have crossed the line into dangerous territory".

The American Senate says torture should be banned - whatever the justification. But President Bush has threatened to veto their ruling.

The former spymaster claims President Bush is not telling the truth when he says that torture is not a method used by the US.

Speaking of Bush's claims that the US does not use torture, Admiral Turner, who ran the CIA from 1977 to 1981, said: "I do not believe him".

On Dick Cheney he said "I'm embarrassed the United States has a vice president for torture.

"He condones torture, what else is he?".

Admiral Turner claims the secret CIA prisons used for torture are known as 'black sites', terror suspects are picked up in places like Afghanistan and Pakistan.

They are flown by CIA-controlled private aircraft to countries where there are secret interrogation centres, operating outside any country's jurisdiction.

No one will confirm their locations, but there are several possibilities: The Mihail-Kogalniceanu military airbase in Romania is believed by many to be one such facility.

Admiral Turner's remarks were echoed by Republican Senator John McCain, himself a victim of torture in Vietnam.

He said torturing to get information was immoral, was not effective and encouraged potential enemies to do the same to Americans.

Both Mr Bush and Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice have repeatedly stated that torture by US forces is not condoned.
Massive Quasars
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Post by Massive Quasars »

Puff, on this point even many high profile conservative bloggers seem to agree. The Bush admin. tacitly approves of torture.
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Post by HM-PuFFNSTuFF »

Massive Quasars wrote:Puff, on this point many high profile conservative bloggers seem to agree. The Bush admin. tacitly approves of torture.
do they have a have a problem with it?
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Post by Massive Quasars »

HM-PuFFNSTuFF wrote: do they have a have a problem with it?
Many do... some don't.
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Post by Canidae »

Do you really believe Bush is the first American leader who says one thing and does another?
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Chupacabra
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Post by Chupacabra »

i dont think so. course i also dont think getting a bj is as bad as TORTURING PEOPLE.
menkent
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Post by menkent »

try picturing monica lewinsky naked. you might reconsider. :fugly:
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