How the Government Staged theUK Bombings in Ten Easy Steps..

Post by **saturn** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:20 pm

The exercises in london involved simulated terrorist attacks on public transport I think.

That's too much of a coincidence.

Post by **saturn** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:23 pm

R00k wrote:
saturn wrote:
R00k wrote:Come on guys, don't let the terror exercises fool you. After all, the same thing happened on 9/11, and that was no reason to suspect anything out of the ordinary, was it?
I didn't know about 9/11 excercises. What happened that day?
There were 3 terrorism exercises occuring when the attacks happened. A large number of fighters were sent up toward northern Canada, and there was a "live-fly" exercise in the northeast US, meaning they inserted blips on the FAA radar screens and acted for all intents and purposes like real terrorist hijackings were going on.

The extra blips confused a lot of FAA personnel during the attacks. The drills were also the reason that FEMA was there the day before the attacks, setting up a massive response center. Which is why they were able to help so quickly (and quickly round up the steel to ship it off).

oh....they really kept this from the public then. Never heard of it till now, but I havent been up to date since i'm kinda fed up with all the TERRORISM politics.

This smells like Batman.

Post by **hate** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:24 pm

i want cheaper gas

Post by **hate** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:32 pm

saturn wrote:The exercises in london involved simulated terrorist attacks on public transport I think.

That's too much of a coincidence.

true, because once you have a working draft it would be stupid to deviate

Post by **R00k** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:34 pm

What are you trying to say injun?

Post by **hate** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:37 pm

a man who says does not know

a man who knows does not say

Post by **R00k** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:39 pm

OMG you're Karl Rove!

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:40 pm

And a man who says what he does not know says nothing.

Cause there are known knowns and unknown knowns but the hardest are the known unknowns and especially the unknown unknowns...but I won't say anything about that either.

Post by **hate** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:41 pm

i think i broke your brain :icon32:

Post by **saturn** » Wed Jul 13, 2005 11:43 pm

hate wrote:
saturn wrote:The exercises in london involved simulated terrorist attacks on public transport I think.

That's too much of a coincidence.
true, because once you have a working draft it would be stupid to deviate

at the same time and place, ok.

Post by **R00k** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:09 pm

Here is the interview with Peter Power, who runs the company that was doing the exercises that day.

Needless to say, he was as surprised as anyone to find out that they had real attacks on their hands:
http://www.onlinejournal.com/Commentary ... onard.html

Power: Today we were running an exercise for a company . . . 1,000 people involved in the whole organization—with the crisis team. And the most peculiar thing was, it was we based on a scenario of simultaneous attacks on a underground and mainline station. So we had to suddenly switch an exercise from fictional to real. . . .

Interviewer: Just to get this right, you were actually working today on an exercise that envisioned virtually this scenario?

Power: Almost precisely. [2]

Within the hour Mr. Power was on the radio, too:

Power: At half past nine this morning we were actually running an exercise for a company of over a thousand people in London based on simultaneous bombs going off precisely at the railway stations where it happened this morning, so I still have the hairs on the back of my neck standing up right now.

Host: To get this quite straight, you were running an exercise to see how you would cope with this and it happened while you were running the exercise?

Power: Precisely. [3]

Just like 9/11 - except on 9/11, the exercises were executed by government agencies, not private contractors.

Post by **Geebs** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 5:34 pm

Post by **R00k** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:10 pm

I could possibly see you posting something like that if I were putting forward some kind of theory.

All I posted was an interview by the person who led the exercises. Are you not able to believe it?

Post by **Dave** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:20 pm

Post by **Dave** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:21 pm

:icon19:

Post by **GONNAFISTYA** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 6:36 pm

It's a demon dog!

It must be Republican.

Post by **seremtan** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:47 pm

it's addicted to spice. it can see your future

btw, the fact that some guys were running a drill based on this scenario at the same time has another explanation: that the scenario is so fucking obvious that everyone was thinking about it.

Post by **seremtan** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 7:52 pm

oh, and the trigger method: mobile phones. i remember the news saying that one of the bombs went off in the deepest section of underground in london (100 feet i think). how does a mobile signal penetrate down there?

Post by **tnf** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:36 pm

God, one of the suspected bombers was a teaching assistant at a primary school, had an 8 month old daughter, very caring with students, counseled kids...it just doesn't make sense...

Post by **Foo** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 10:48 pm

seremtan wrote:it's addicted to spice. it can see your future

btw, the fact that some guys were running a drill based on this scenario at the same time has another explanation: that the scenario is so fucking obvious that everyone was thinking about it.

There are hundreds of tube stations in London, and they hit 3. Apparently, the same 3 the sims were going off at, and they are not the 3 biggest stations in London.

Second, the exercises were going off on the same day, at roughly the same time.

Although having said all that, what exactly does a company do as a 'terror exercise', and what company has business hiring them? Do they dress in dark glasses and carry suspicious briefcases for a few hours, or what?

TBH the exercises thing sounds like something rigged to later become a laughing stock, so that the story overall becomes credible because if you shoot down one crackpot theory you've anulled them all.

Post by **R00k** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:15 pm

If the head of the company said publicly twice that they happened and was visibly shaken by it, I have a hard time discounting it as just a rumor.

Post by **seremtan** » Thu Jul 14, 2005 11:58 pm

maybe the bombers had inside intel from the company

Post by **Geebs** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 9:36 am

Foo wrote: There are hundreds of tube stations in London, and they hit 3. Apparently, the same 3 the sims were going off at, and they are not the 3 biggest stations in London.
.

Oh ffs, they hit the commuter lines leading to the City during rush hour, you silly bugger

Post by **SplishSplash** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:48 pm

tnf wrote:God, one of the suspected bombers was a teaching assistant at a primary school, had an 8 month old daughter, very caring with students, counseled kids...it just doesn't make sense...

Yeah, but wouldn't the conspirators do the same background checks on their puppets and pick someone else?

Post by **Foo** » Fri Jul 15, 2005 4:59 pm

SplishSplash wrote:
tnf wrote:God, one of the suspected bombers was a teaching assistant at a primary school, had an 8 month old daughter, very caring with students, counseled kids...it just doesn't make sense...
Yeah, but wouldn't the conspirators do the same background checks on their puppets and pick someone else?

hard to judge just how picky someone could afford to be in searching for appropriate people for a 'job' like that.