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+JuggerNaut+ wrote:haters wouldn't use the OS.
Untrue. I hate Windows because of so many annoyances that I encounter when using it for any significant length of time. I vastly prefer to use KDE on Linux. Still, I did used to run XP dual-boot in order to play a bunch of "PC" games that I own. I stopped booting XP and have been Windows-free for over a year now largely because my installation ate itself yet again and I keep putting off the reinstallation. :p
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Post by +JuggerNaut+ »

but you're putting off the reinstall, therefore, you're not using the OS.

btw, i dual boot myself, what flavor are you using?
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Post by Dave »

AmIdYfReAk wrote:i last used RC2... i also forget what build..
There is no RC2 for Vista
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+JuggerNaut+ wrote:but you're putting off the reinstall, therefore, you're not using the OS.
Well, not currently. I intend to use it whenever I get the urge to replay some game(s) that won't run under wine, though.
btw, i dual boot myself, what flavor are you using?
Debian. :)
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Post by Tormentius »

Caffeine wrote:
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:haters wouldn't use the OS.
Untrue. I hate Windows because of so many annoyances that I encounter when using it for any significant length of time. I vastly prefer to use KDE on Linux. Still, I did used to run XP dual-boot in order to play a bunch of "PC" games that I own. I stopped booting XP and have been Windows-free for over a year now largely because my installation ate itself yet again and I keep putting off the reinstallation. :p
Its funny that so many people have no problems whatsoever. Ever thought it might be a lack of skill or knowledge on your own part thats causing your systems issues?
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Tormentius wrote: Its funny that so many people have no problems whatsoever.
The "annoyances" that I was referring to are features and behaviors that I've come to expect in Linux, KDE, and various FOSS apps that are absent (or craptacular) in Windows. I have tried many times to work around this, but I always end up being unsatisfied.

Case in point: Virtual desktops. I could not find a decent, no-cost implementation for Windows. Of the free ones that I tried, all were inferior in some way.
Ever thought it might be a lack of skill or knowledge on your own part thats causing your systems issues?
Yeah, it's possible that I disabled some service that I shouldn't have, or tweaked something that shouldn't have been. I just can't help it when I'm running Windows on my own machines, though -- I'm never happy with it.
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Post by CheapAlert »

something tells me linux will have a more popular future
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CheapAlert wrote:something tells me linux will have a more popular future
Im sure it will.. when you can install it and do nothing but update it and have a fully working computer..
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SOAPboy wrote:
CheapAlert wrote:something tells me linux will have a more popular future
Im sure it will.. when you can install it and do nothing but update it and have a fully working computer..
um, you can do that with Ubuntu.
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+JuggerNaut+ wrote:
SOAPboy wrote:
CheapAlert wrote:something tells me linux will have a more popular future
Im sure it will.. when you can install it and do nothing but update it and have a fully working computer..
um, you can do that with Ubuntu.
Really? and have FULL 3d support without having to edit shit and add drivers all kinds of retarded ways?
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Post by +JuggerNaut+ »

of course you need the current driver for graphics cards, but we're not talking about gaming. "fully functional computer" in most people's terms, this does not include playing the latest games but rather being able to surf, check email, chat, and the like.

we're talking about your average user, not a gamer.
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Post by Captain »

Is Vista going to be filled with BSODs and system failures as much as XP?
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Post by +JuggerNaut+ »

what the hell are some of you guys doing with your systems? almost four years of using xp and i've had ONE BSOD after installing some sh1t freeware software (cd labeling software, iirc)
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+JuggerNaut+ wrote:what the hell are some of you guys doing with your systems? almost four years of using xp and i've had ONE BSOD after installing some sh1t freeware software (cd labeling software, iirc)
no shit.. onyl time i get BSODs is when i add some crazy hardware/driver combo that OTHER HARDWARE dont like.. OS is fine.. people are just tools..
+JuggerNaut+ wrote:of course you need the current driver for graphics cards, but we're not talking about gaming. "fully functional computer" in most people's terms, this does not include playing the latest games but rather being able to surf, check email, chat, and the like.

we're talking about your average user, not a gamer.
Average person does play games.. maybe not "uber high end" but stupid shit that requires SOME 3d usage.. Example, my GFs grandma plays poker, game requres direct x and 3d acceleration..


Point im getting at here, is right now you have to go through fuck all to get proper 3d support right now.. when you can just double click a file and let an installer just take over, THEN its easy enough for bob to use..
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Post by +JuggerNaut+ »

yeah, but most (if not all?) of the online poker games are windows only anyway. moot point.
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Post by SOAPboy »

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:yeah, but most (if not all?) of the online poker games are windows only anyway. moot point.
Its not online poker, its a game she bought from the store..

Not a moot point
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It curdled, and then I couldn't drink it. So I mixed it with some water, and it was alright again.

I am now sick.
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right. that is windows only. again, moot point.
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+JuggerNaut+ wrote:right. that is windows only. again, moot point.
And if linux went "mainstream" games would be made for linux

Again, NOT a moot point.. You fail..
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It curdled, and then I couldn't drink it. So I mixed it with some water, and it was alright again.

I am now sick.
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Post by bitWISE »

+JuggerNaut+ wrote:what the hell are some of you guys doing with your systems? almost four years of using xp and i've had ONE BSOD after installing some sh1t freeware software (cd labeling software, iirc)
No doubt. My systems have been solid ever since I moved from Windows 98 to 2000.
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Post by Captain »

Heck I had never even heard of a BSOD until last November when I needed a new PSU. Now for 2 months I've had nothing but blue shit.
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Post by Dave »

Captain Mazda wrote:Heck I had never even heard of a BSOD until last November when I needed a new PSU. Now for 2 months I've had nothing but blue shit.
So in otherwords you can trace your problems back to a hardware event.. yet you blame the OS. I think you should keep looking
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Post by o'dium »

The only problems people have with Vista, worry wise, is a) Performance and b) performance in open GL.

Now a) is fine, if the desktop runs bad, turn off the effects. You can dumb it down to look like 98 if you want, you dont have to use the features.

And b), well performance in openGL is fixed already. Pretty muche very major openGL dev moaned a LOT at M$, so now, openGL will run with EXACTLY THE SAME performance as Windows XP. Not less, but the same. DX powered games may get a little benefit as the OS is built around that. But Open GL is no longer taking the hit it once was, and its by no means going to cause the end of Open GL games.

So in other words, the 2 biggest worry-wart issues of the new OS are already solved.

The only OTHER problems are c) having to upgrade, which is a pain in the arse, and b) having to switch to possible x64, which is fucking annoying because half my shit wont work in 64bit XP...
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Post by o'dium »

And as for BSOD I've never had one in XP. Yeah, this systemc crashes, or becomes unstable, or messes up. But thats usually my problem, because i did something wrong, or used up to much ram or some crazy shit. It only ever major fucks up when im editing in PSP/PS and I use up 2gigs worth of ram. But even then, its easy to just restart.

I think a lot of people just think "Windows" and forget that XP is actually a pretty solid OS. Way more so than 98.
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