Aliens arriving in July.

[xer0s]

Do you guys know who you’re dealing with? This is the smartest man on this forum!

[Transient]

Kracus, I just want to thank you for filling the void left behind by Gwamps' departure. It's really selfless of you to take up the mantle of Forum Dunce.

[Κracus]

I try buddy but seriously... I can never fill the void that was Gwamps brain.

[Κracus]

Do you guys know who you’re dealing with? This is the smartest man on this forum!

This is a fact as stated by the most boring man on this forum.

[Captain]

Joke's on us though, right now aliens are reading this thread to pick the most virile and smartest human specimen to impregnate a bunch of big-titted blue maidens and kracass is clearly the top choice.

[Eraser]

Death by snoo snoo

[Κracus]

In case some of you never watched this guys interviews here's a short relevant blurb from last year. He really doesn't strike me as a liar or some con man trying to sell a story. Keep in mind this guy was in charge of a fleet of aircraft and pilots.

[youtube]3pvaSW3XB0U[/youtube]

I feel like when this news was disclosed everyone is having the same knee jerk reaction of "whatever it's just some mundane thing we don't understand". However when you look at it like him, and it's not mundane, then you have to ask. What is it actually? People can't ask themselves that because it means acknowledging that it exists and the taboo displayed in this thread is why most are too scared to give it the attention it deserves.

[Transient]

People don't roll their eyes at the idea of aliens visiting us because they think it's a taboo subject. :rolleyes:

And the fact that some guy doesn't 'strike' you as a conman isn't a very good metric of trustworthiness. Isn't the whole point of being a confidence man to make you think he's believeable? :dork:

[Scourge]

This thread reminds me great deal of the flat earth crap going around. You a flerfer also, Kracus?

[Scourge]

Kracus, I just want to thank you for filling the void left behind by Gwamps' departure. It's really selfless of you to take up the mantle of Forum Dunce.

Did I miss something?

[xer0s]

Gramps basically rage quit after the failed insurrection. Trump lost the election, Gramps lost his erection…

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

People don't roll their eyes at the idea of aliens visiting us because they think it's a taboo subject. :rolleyes:

And the fact that some guy doesn't 'strike' you as a conman isn't a very good metric of trustworthiness. Isn't the whole point of being a confidence man to make you think he's believeable? :dork:

:olo:

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

The speed of light is the real limiting factor. You can't see past the distance it's travelled once the time it took to get there equals the age of the universe.

Stop trying to pretend you're smarter than I am.

Stop trying to pretend you're smart.

[DooMer]

There's multiple instruments picking these up plus pilot visual, and it happens a lot, all over the world. Way more than just the 3 leaked videos.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national ... ovid-bill/

They are capable of moving in ways that our technology isn't even close to replicating. This is why it's not far off to hypothesize non human intelligence. The reason this hypothesis makes sense is because the other answers don't cover all the bases. Healthy skepticism is fine, and required, but when you disregard the bulk of the evidence anything can be a balloon or lense flare. Skeptisism can be a sort of religion on its own, if you argue something isnt real for a long time, it's hard to change your mind and you dig in even more. It's really hard to change your world view, and if aliens are real, that a big change in world view right there. I'm sure the US govt didn't think they might possibly be a balloon or lense flares before flagging those events as UAPs, good job on that youtuber for figuring that one out :rolleyes:

It could be some top secret military tech, but the odd movement patterns have been observed for at least a few decades, and the most advanced nations perceive them as being a few generations ahead of what we are capable of. There's reports of them enabling/disabling nukes. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ex-air-for ... ted-nukes/

In the past the joke was that yokels are always the ones with the ufo stories, but now serious people are coming forward including governments and we still have the same attitude towards the subject. I went from not believing aliens existed at all, to probably aliens somewhere cuz the universe is a big place but not on earth, to yeah aliens are probably out there and if they have tech like observed its not a far stretch to think that they're here. Researching the history of project bluebook a bit might inform you as to why the stigma is there and why the govt wanted to cover it up. It wasn't about keeping aliens from us but more about preventing panic during the cold war. They didn't want people thinking the soviet union owned our airspace, so the policy was to debunk and ridicule. Even if they aren't some kind of non human intelligence it's unfair to ridicule the possibility. Except the guy who says he got abducted in that reddit post, fuck that lunatic

The fact is that the govt says there's actual physical shit flying around that we don't understand. Ex presidents say the same thing.

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/weird-s ... re-rcna963
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Pr9Zjxja0

They could also be related to some natural or technological phenomenon we don't understand til we research it, but in 2021 with what has been divulged so far, I don't think it's crazy to add non human intelligence to the list of possibilities

[Eraser]

Oof, they got DooMer as well!

[DooMer]

If we are observing trans-medium vehicles that can seemingly instantaneously appear in another location, stay in the air for hours without recharging or refueling, show no exhaust or propulsion, basically checking all the requirements of interstellar travel and the dang govt, the ones who invented the balloon, lens flare, and swamp gas excuse admits there's something to it, is it really that big of a stretch to at the very least entertain the idea that they might be from somewhere else?

I mean, most people think there's life out there somewhere but there's zero evidence for that besides the universe is big and that we exist. Probability. Where is the line that divides 'there's probably life out there', and 'there's probably life out there and they may visit earth'? What makes one idea dumb and the other not? Part of the fermi paradox is if life is so common why don't we see it? They've possibly always been around but we aren't all that perceptive, and when we are, we don't want to hear it.

If it is non human intelligence it doesn't stop at ET being a potential culprit. Alien is a big spectrum. It could involve extra dimensions, time, or shit we cant even think up. It very well can be something explainable, but the evidence to me puts non human intelligence at the top of the list with what we know so far.

[Eraser]

If we are observing trans-medium vehicles that can seemingly instantaneously appear in another location, stay in the air for hours without recharging or refueling, show no exhaust or propulsion, basically checking all the requirements of interstellar travel

But that's just your assumption of what it is.

and the dang govt, the ones who invented the balloon, lens flare, and swamp gas excuse admits there's something to it,

Do they really? Can you show me where they say "hmm, this might be aliens"? Because all I'm getting is the gov't saying "here's a bunch of videos of objects we haven't been able to identify".

is it really that big of a stretch to at the very least entertain the idea that they might be from somewhere else?

Yeah, it actually is. You're just showing circumstantial proof which for a good portion aren't proof but assumptions. It's like seremtan says: extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. And so far, I haven't seen any objective, undeniable proof that these are aliens.

I mean, most people think there's life out there somewhere but there's zero evidence for that besides the universe is big and that we exist. Probability. Where is the line that divides 'there's probably life out there', and 'there's probably life out there and they may visit earth'? What makes one idea dumb and the other not? Part of the fermi paradox is if life is so common why don't we see it? They've possibly always been around but we aren't all that perceptive, and when we are, we don't want to hear it.

For me personally, considering how immense the universe is, it's just statistically not unlikely that somewhere out there some kind of life has formed. But at the same time, that same vastness also makes it unlikely they've contacted, let alone visited us.

If it is non human intelligence it doesn't stop at ET being a potential culprit. Alien is a big spectrum. It could involve extra dimensions, time, or shit we cant even think up. It very well can be something explainable, but the evidence to me puts non human intelligence at the top of the list with what we know so far.

When thinking about conspiracy theories (and this is certainly one: the conspiracy being the (US) government keeping proof of alien (intelligent) life under wraps, always consider a few things. First, what would have said conspirators have to gain out of this? Two: how likely is it that a conspiracy at that supposed scale is never leaking out? Three: assuming said conspiracy was true and it comes out in the open that, in this case, alien life does exist. What does that actually change for us besides all of the philosophical thinking it will cause? We have no way to contact these aliens. We have no way of finding where they are or where they come from. Obviously the aliens don't want to make contact with us yet either, because otherwise they would have already done so. And these are aliens who don't want to be found out yet have their ships hovering in a single spot, plainly visible for F18's and navy ships to see :dork:

[Κracus]

I think you’re afraid to acknowledge these things are real because it forces you to accept the UFO’s exist AND you don’t know what is controlling them. With the options all involving some sci fi shit.

If you’re so easily fooled by Mick West you’re choosing not to look too hard into this.

[Eraser]

I think you’re afraid to acknowledge these things are real because it forces you to accept the UFO’s exist AND you don’t know what is controlling them. With the options all involving some sci fi shit.

lol, what? Why would I be scared of that? I mean, like I said in my previous post, what would really change if we figured out that, yeah, these are actual aliens? Practically, it wouldn't change a thing.

[Don Carlos]

I think you’re afraid to acknowledge these things are real because it forces you to accept the UFO’s exist AND you don’t know what is controlling them. With the options all involving some sci fi shit.

If you’re so easily fooled by Mick West you’re choosing not to look too hard into this.

That's a ridiculous take on what Eraser has said

[Κracus]

I think you’re afraid to acknowledge these things are real because it forces you to accept the UFO’s exist AND you don’t know what is controlling them. With the options all involving some sci fi shit.

lol, what? Why would I be scared of that? I mean, like I said in my previous post, what would really change if we figured out that, yeah, these are actual aliens? Practically, it wouldn't change a thing.

Yeah, it’s not the about the aliens. You’re afraid of stepping outside conformity. You’re ok with acknowledging those UFO reports if a sufficient majority agree. You’re not ok with acknowledging these are real UFO’s right now because, I’m your minds eye, it makes you seem loony.

My problem with that whole concept is that the fear of conformity overrides common sense when presented with something that falls outside that scope. It causes delays in action overall. That’s just my take though, it’s healthy to be sceptical until you start ignoring problems because of it.

[xer0s]

You’re just scared of aliens!

[xer0s]

Personally, I’m open to the possibility of intelligent life (besides us) in the universe. And I’m open to the idea of them being able to travel intergalactically, even coming here.

Has it happened in the past? Maybe. Is it happening now? Maybe. But probably not.

Like we have said, the evidence isn’t solid. Something is definitely happening. People are seeing something. Instruments are detecting something. But it’s probably a natural phenomenon.

I’m not ruling out aliens (even then, it’s probably just a probe or non-biological life). But more than likely it’s a nothing burger…

[HM-PuFFNSTuFF]

If we are observing trans-medium vehicles that can seemingly instantaneously appear in another location, stay in the air for hours without recharging or refueling, show no exhaust or propulsion, basically checking all the requirements of interstellar travel and the dang govt, the ones who invented the balloon, lens flare, and swamp gas excuse admits there's something to it, is it really that big of a stretch to at the very least entertain the idea that they might be from somewhere else?

I mean, most people think there's life out there somewhere but there's zero evidence for that besides the universe is big and that we exist. Probability. Where is the line that divides 'there's probably life out there', and 'there's probably life out there and they may visit earth'? What makes one idea dumb and the other not? Part of the fermi paradox is if life is so common why don't we see it? They've possibly always been around but we aren't all that perceptive, and when we are, we don't want to hear it.

If it is non human intelligence it doesn't stop at ET being a potential culprit. Alien is a big spectrum. It could involve extra dimensions, time, or shit we cant even think up. It very well can be something explainable, but the evidence to me puts non human intelligence at the top of the list with what we know so far.

fuck u

[Transient]

I think you’re afraid to acknowledge these things are real because it forces you to accept the UFO’s exist AND you don’t know what is controlling them. With the options all involving some sci fi shit.

If you’re so easily fooled by Mick West you’re choosing not to look too hard into this.

I think you’re afraid to acknowledge you're wrong because it forces you to accept the fact that you're an idiot.

Show me your evidence.