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PostPosted: 09-05-2005 03:48 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Mr.Magnetichead wrote:
No it just removes the need to grind mobs untill you get the weapons you want. You still have the bajillion quests to do.


It unbalances the game, making the early portions far too easy to be enjoyable. The whole point of the genre of the game is feeling the pride when you get up another level after putting in all the effort to get there. When you instantly raise to the highest level without doing anything for it (so to speak) it's not really rewarding or fun anymore.
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No it doesn't because you don't have your weapon skill levels high enough to utalise the full strength of the higher damage weapons.
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PostPosted: 09-05-2005 04:19 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


so when you fight in these rpg games, can you move the mouse to clobber people or aim at them to cast spells, or is it all menu-driven?
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PostPosted: 09-05-2005 04:24 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


its real time so you click on your target



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PostPosted: 09-05-2005 04:24 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


What you want is Might & Magic Dark Messiah.

When it comes out atleast.
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PostPosted: 09-05-2005 05:02 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Hm... seems as if I'm gonna get this. WoW bores me a bit ...
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PostPosted: 09-05-2005 07:19 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


wow yall guys are noobs: youre spreading your att points way too thin. Should only put your points in 3 categories, 4 at the most.
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PostPosted: 09-05-2005 07:23 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


yea, like mat. clit has his spread out wayy to thin :dork:



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PostPosted: 09-05-2005 07:31 AM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Also:
Swords :olo:
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Mat Linnett wrote:
Also:
Swords :olo:


They're both max damage and cause fire damage.
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PostPosted: 09-05-2005 07:54 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


wait, is that opposed to "Ping: Guild Wars Non-nerds" ?
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Mr.Magnetichead wrote:
Mat Linnett wrote:
Also:
Swords :olo:


They're both max damage and cause fire damage.


Um, that's not the point I was making.
Swords in general are pretty much accepted as being the worst of the 3 weapon types.
Also, by "max damage", do you mean plain old 15-22?
'cos if they haven't got a +15% damage mod (while hexed, health above 50%, enchanted, etc.), they ain't worth diddly.

Pretty though :)
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i wish there were bows with the same purdy visual effects those swords got



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Mat Linnett wrote:
Mr.Magnetichead wrote:
Mat Linnett wrote:
Also:
Swords :olo:


They're both max damage and cause fire damage.


Um, that's not the point I was making.
Swords in general are pretty much accepted as being the worst of the 3 weapon types.
Also, by "max damage", do you mean plain old 15-22?
'cos if they haven't got a +15% damage mod (while hexed, health above 50%, enchanted, etc.), they ain't worth diddly.

Pretty though :)


They were. They cost me a pretty penny.
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PostPosted: 09-05-2005 05:47 PM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Picked up a gold vamp hammer 5:1 right before I took the screeny :)


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Well, it'd actually be quite a lot for the money, even on Ebay. (for fissure armor)

It would literally cost right around $40 for the platinum to buy the materials for the gear. And then it cost roughly another $10 on Ebay for the platinum to buy all five pieces of the armor itself.

It's expensive stuff. I may do it one day, but I'm not in as much of a rush as I was before I found out the ridiculous real-life cost of it. :) Or I could get it "legit" and work for like 200+ hours in the game raising the money. Or not.
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Heh, here's the main reason I don't have over a million xp yet:

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PostPosted: 09-05-2005 10:28 PM           Profile   Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


You'll get bored before you ever max all those chars out. :p
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Um, those characters ARE "maxed out"...
Beo's been "maxed out" since about 3 days after release...
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theres just so much to do :icon14:



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PostPosted: 09-06-2005 03:33 AM           Profile Send private message  E-mail  Edit post Reply with quote


Mat Linnett wrote:
and the PvP is unique

I agree. Pvp action is key.
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Oh, and for all those who aren't aware, Grenth's Footprint and Sorrow's Forge, the new EAs, will be released tomorrow.
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Your character can only lvl 20 times? Thats kinda lame.
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Your character can only lvl 20 times? Thats kinda lame.


yeah but OMG THE PVP OWNZORZ

fucking guild wars.. :olo:



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Not really.
It means that you can quickly reach the cap.
At least a third of the game's content is designed with top level in mind, so once you reach top level there's actually stuff for you to do!
Also, with PvP being a big feature in this game, people are on a level playing field. If you get beaten, it's down to bad skill choices or a lack of coordination; it is NOT down to the other team being higher level with better kit.
And there are still LOTS of things to aim for after reaching level 20.
As mentioned, Beo's been top level since almost the start, but I've still got loads of stuff to unlock with him if I want to. I can respec him to any other secondary class and proceed to get every normal and elite skill for that class if I so wish.
Levelling is for those with little skill, but lots of time to spare :P

In fact, I'd say that with all my characters, I have wanted to get to level 20 as quickly as possible, so as to get the monotonous level grinding out of the way and concentrate on the real meat of the game...
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Deathshroud wrote:
Your character can only lvl 20 times? Thats kinda lame.


For now. You can still gather XP after level 20 but you don't physically level.
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SOAPboy wrote:
Deathshroud wrote:
Your character can only lvl 20 times? Thats kinda lame.


yeah but OMG THE PVP OWNZORZ

fucking guild wars.. :olo:


Go back to ganking mages prick.
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Mr.Magnetichead wrote:
SOAPboy wrote:
Deathshroud wrote:
Your character can only lvl 20 times? Thats kinda lame.


yeah but OMG THE PVP OWNZORZ

fucking guild wars.. :olo:


Go back to ganking mages prick.


Um.. ok?

my main is a mage.......



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Oh, and SOAPboy's opinion is entirely worthless. He always feels the need to criticise the game whilst having very little experience of the final product.

Little does he realise that you don't have to slavishly dedicate your life to paying monthly for one game and one game only, tirelessly dismissing anything else that differs even slightly from this tired old formula.

Given time, he'll grow out of this, so I'm willing to forgive the occasional misinformed, immature outburst from our resident angst-meister.
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Mat Linnett wrote:
Oh, and SOAPboy's opinion is entirely worthless. He always feels the need to criticise the game whilst having very little experience of the final product.

Little does he realise that you don't have to slavishly dedicate your life to paying monthly for one game and one game only, tirelessly dismissing anything else that differs even slightly from this tired old formula.

Given time, he'll grow out of this, so I'm willing to forgive the occasional misinformed, immature outburst from our resident angst-meister.


So, since CLOSED beta, to release, i have no real experiance..

Gotcha..

When it goes to 20 bucks, ill pick it up to dick with it, but by no means is it a 'great' game..



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Hook, line and sinker.
Notice I said final product.
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Hook, line and sinker.
Notice I said final product.


Yep, since it changed SOOO much in 1 week from end of beta..

again, the gameplay hasent changed, its still gay instanced PvE with no real world interaction..



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Um, no computer game offers real world interaction...
I think what you're trying to say, in your rather limited way, is that you can't run into other players whilst in an explorable area or mission.
Fine by me.
That's not all it's cracked up to be anyway.
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Mat Linnett wrote:
Um, no computer game offers real world interaction...
I think what you're trying to say, in your rather limited way, is that you can't run into other players whilst in an explorable area or mission.
Fine by me.
That's not all it's cracked up to be anyway.


Which is exactly why i play MMOs, so i can SEE and TALK TO other people OUTSIDE of fucking towns..

If i want to play with a handful of people and only them, ill play diablo or dungeon siege..



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And as far as I can tell, this is your only true problem with the game. Not really a valid reason for dismissing it outright, is it?
Especially when it doesn't sell itself as an MMO in the first place.
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