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Yeah you can tell how upset I am by the 10,000 word essay I wrote multiple times in this thread.




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But you crying when youre only half way on my dick says otherwise ?



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I like how he's surprised by your essays, on a public forum, that he moderates. How dare you discuss things ?, you must be upset.



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losCHUNK wrote:
That should explain that I am NOT saying that they're all innocent, but Shaft and Puff ARE saying they were all guilty, which is the rhetoric.


You're too dumb to even know what anyone was talking about.

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Memphis wrote:
I agree with that analysis. My only interjection, is how she maybe initially receives the benefit of the doubt, but he does not. If that did not happen, maybe nobody would have lost their life. We'd need the article and possibly more to duke anything out - and I'm sure that if either are demonstrably found guilty, there would be no disagreement over a conviction.

Benefit of the doubt is a super hard thing to get right. Who gets the benefit of the doubt when rape is involved? The accuser? The accused? Both? Neither? Everyon'e going to make up their own minds in the end. A false accusation of rape can destroy someone's life, but so does raping someone. Even after a court determines whether a rape occurred, it still might not convince the public of who was right and who was wrong. You can Google the Steubenville rape case for a good example of how fucked up it can get.



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Memphis wrote:
When I say 'feminists' - I am obviously referring to the feminists in particular who have said whatever stupid shit is in question. We can argue semantics all day, but it's not really much fun, tbh.

I shall certainly agree, that not all feminists in society are radical extremists.

Out of genuine curiosity, what percentage of feminists do you think fall into the category of batshit crazy? And what percentage of the conversation do you think their voices take up?

If I had to hazard a guess myself off the top of my head, I'd say 1% and 20% respectively. :shrug:



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Benefit of the doubt is a super hard thing to get right. Who gets the benefit of the doubt when rape is involved? The accuser? The accused? Both? Neither? Everyon'e going to make up their own minds in the end. A false accusation of rape can destroy someone's life, but so does raping someone. Even after a court determines whether a rape occurred, it still might not convince the public of who was right and who was wrong. You can Google the Steubenville rape case for a good example of how fucked up it can get.


Aye. There should simply be none, on either side, until the justice system has done it's duty. Either way, that absolutely has to be allowed to happen first.
Afterwards, should it be a shit-show - that's a come what may basis. Christ knows what the 'right' thing may be in any such instance, bar thorough third-party investigation. Thanks for the read suggestion, I'd not heard of it, so will have a gander.


This.

I've always bought into the idea it's better to let 10 guilty men go than... It's not necessarily something I live by, but getting plucked out your daily life and dragged through a 2 year court case. Just no.



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plained wrote:
i think you are a fabulously entertaining and talented writer!

let me know when you write some books so i can buy them!

i'm serios ey <3



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We all know you're somewhat wordally challenged dear plainerd. Just chuck us mommy's note and you can be excused :p


lol @ plained sucking up to a guy who calls him challenged...

spak monkey needs friends too ey!!




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My favorite part about discussions around here is when nerd agro causes people to jump to extreme conclusions and then refuse to back down no matter what. :olo:




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shaft wrote:
losCHUNK wrote:
That should explain that I am NOT saying that they're all innocent, but Shaft and Puff ARE saying they were all guilty, which is the rhetoric.


You're too dumb to even know what anyone was talking about.


Puffs is worse

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So she drank a lot and you thought that meant yes, tell us more.


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You know who likes to downplay rape statistics? Convicted rapists.


That's exactly the rhetoric I was talking about. No doubt this is why you didn't even bother mentioning the stats. Cos rapists, right ?

Now gargle, don't spit.



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and without a doubt mazda has a sharp mind as well!



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Captain Mazda wrote:

I was raised to treat women and men alike with respect. I'll hold the door open for anyone and I respect people's right for personal space.

And just for shits and giggles:

Do I believe women deserve equal treatment and respect same as men? Yes.

Do I believe women should be given special rights and an advantage over men? No.

Do I believe efforts should be made to increase women's interest or participation in industries and professions typically dominated by men? Yes.


Now I'm gonna go cook an awesome meal for my girlfriend because feminism made me feel guilty about liking tits.


:drool:


oh and l see lies there, i am almost 100% sure u make the meal jus because, because you are awesome!



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Memphis wrote:
I honestly couldn't say. Many feminists no longer wish to identify as one, so it'd be a very, very tricky guestimate to make.
If we could get any information, it would be interesting.

On campus feminists, on gender studies courses though? Probaby all of them. Bar the few that speak out about a culture of brainwashing that is far more about activism, than it is about research.

Ok, so if all the campus feminists and all the people in gender studies classes are crazy bitches, how many people total is that? Out of the tens (hundreds?) of millions of college students worldwide, that's a very small fraction of people, even if your guess is totally right. That's not a lot of batshittiness. Yet you can point me to example after example of these nutters (I'm not watching all those videos, by the way, and I doubt anyone else is), so why the disparity? The internet is amplyfying the voices of these crazy fucking idiots who don't know what they're talking about, and you two are overreacting to them. They don't have as much power as you think they do.



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They've managed to get our opposition party to adopt a 50/50 man/women split. That's a pretty big influence imo.



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Nice attempt to instigate there, Ursula. Put the ladle away. Up your arse, preferably. <3


pretty sure you were the one instigating there... I was just pointing it out. Much like I'm now going to point out that you're a creepy, woman hater.




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plained wrote:
:drool:


oh and l see lies there, i am almost 100% sure u make the meal jus because, because you are awesome!


ey u noes it nangle :drool:




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losCHUNK wrote:
They've managed to get our opposition party to adopt a 50/50 man/women split. That's a pretty big influence imo.

Yes, it was a bunch of shrill college students and nothing else that brought the UK to a place where dozens of other developed countries already were.



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You're missing the point again...

A small voice in a powerful movement has a lot of weight. 50/50 splits aren't about gender equality, we've discussed this already >:E



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If they were far right nazis, would you care then?

Right then, Godwin's Law. Only 9 pages, I'm a bit disappointed. :(



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You only need to look at this thread to see how closely people hold their beliefs and what happens when you challenge them - you get called a racist, a bigot, a rapist or women beater



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Memphis wrote:
it's a valid example of the opposite side. regressives are the farthest of the far left. nazis are considered the far, far right.
noone's calling anyone a nazi. answer the question.

You're implying that feminists are somehow potentially as dangerous as Nazis? If you're worried about that, then we are on two completely different levels and we're only going to go in circles from here on out.



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Memphis wrote:
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Much like I'm now going to point out that you're a creepy, woman hater.


Go ahead. I wish you good fortune in finding proof. Else, whatever kiddo. You're entitled to your opinion. Even if it's based on shallow, fetid bitterness.

This thread is proof you goofball. You go on about 'triggered' people and meanwhile this thread is you 'triggered' about inconsequential b.s. that has literally no effect on your life. Keep posting links of all these things that upset you you're not unhinged at all... :ducky:




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Right Sektor...

Small movement turned marginal leader after the shit in the Ukraine kicked off. Just imagine they're bad, like the Soviets in an 80s movie. I think they're disbanded now though.



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edit: it's not even what the ideology is. it's that it's an ideology at all. noone should be going into further education to be radicalised.

So your first example of an ideology is naturally Nazism. Makes sense. It's not like you couldn't pick another random example of an ideology.

You think women are being radicalized by their college professors? Are they building an army? Should I buy a gun? Or maybe my cawk would be a better weapon when they come for me. The feeling of a real penis in their vaginas instead of the usual double-ended dildo will likely pacify them into defecting. What will their uniforms look like, I wonder? Surely no skin will be showing. :olo:



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Teaching people when things go wrong it's probably not their fault is toxic. Even worse is when portions of society becomes tolerant of this behavior and begin to nurture it.




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Meeeeemph, Gwamps said a smart thing.

What do we do ?, run ?



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Skimmed through this hot mess but I would like to say that I don't like feminism, socialism, entitlements or anything else that tries to "level the playing field".

Life is not supposed to be fair. There's this sick idea in the later generations' minds that every fucking thing needs to be equal for everyone. The very idea of equality goes completely against the progress of mankind. Technological milestones will not be reached, medicine will not get better, it will be a dead society. There will be no incentives to succeed. Where do you draw the line with equality? Do we all have to have the same job, same income, same uniform, same amount of food, on and on.....?

Life is meant to be competitive. Everything is, on all scales of existence. From the tiny imperfections of the early universe that led to the accretion of matter into stars, to the natural selection process of evolution. If the early universe were perfect and equal, nothing would exist. If all life forms were equal, there would be no evolution and we'd all be single-cell organisms.

This isn't black and white thinking—as though I'm suggesting proponents of equality are supportive of that extreme end—they just don't realize it's a fundamental fact of the universe. The more you try to equalize a system, the less it will evolve and become more complex.




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Life isn't fair. I know that. Other people don't know that. It's not fair.




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It's getting worse though. Everything mentioned in this thread is current events ?



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Synergy wrote:
This isn't black and white thinking


Yeah it is. It really, really is.



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Synergy wrote:
Skimmed through this hot mess but I would like to say that I don't like feminism, socialism, entitlements or anything else that tries to "level the playing field".

Life is not supposed to be fair. There's this sick idea in the later generations' minds that every fucking thing needs to be equal for everyone. The very idea of equality goes completely against the progress of mankind. Technological milestones will not be reached, medicine will not get better, it will be a dead society. There will be no incentives to succeed. Where do you draw the line with equality? Do we all have to have the same job, same income, same uniform, same amount of food, on and on.....?

Life is meant to be competitive. Everything is, on all scales of existence. From the tiny imperfections of the early universe that led to the accretion of matter into stars, to the natural selection process of evolution. If the early universe were perfect and equal, nothing would exist. If all life forms were equal, there would be no evolution and we'd all be single-cell organisms.

This isn't black and white thinking—as though I'm suggesting proponents of equality are supportive of that extreme end—they just don't realize it's a fundamental fact of the universe. The more you try to equalize a system, the less it will evolve and become more complex.


no one believes in the kind of equality you're trying to describe, or has ever believed in it. besides, embracing identity politics means embracing 'difference', which is unstable ground for any conception of equality

also, when you appeal to "fundamental facts of the universe" you're committing the naturalistic fallacy ('is implies ought') FYI. social, cultural and legal norms can't be meaningfully compared with physical laws




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Quote:
Sharon – “Ever since you joined this PC thing you just bully people and wait for people to say anything improper so that you can jump down their throats for whatever words he or she used.”
Randy – “He or she is an A-gender phobic micro-aggression, Sharon. You are a bigot.”


There's that deja vu again.



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shaft wrote:
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You still have yet to prove how anyone here is a bigot. So g'wan love, get yer stats out for the lads. *whistles*


You haven't proven you're not a bigot. Looks like I win this round.


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